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    10 Points to make India, A corruption free country.

    These are the ideas of my own, to be proposed.

    1. Population control by adhering to one child policy.

    2. Make education through out the country free, up to the under graduate studies. Just cancel the quota allocation at least for the basic schoolings and undergraduate.

    3. All the educational institutions should bring under government scanner and make sure they don’t run a financial institution instead,

    4. Basic qualification for contesting in election should be an under graduate with good academic record. (Correspondent or postal should not be treated as the qualification)

    5. Restructure the police department. No more constables->head constable->sub inspector->inspector structure. Basic qualification for the police department should be an Under Graduate with a specialization designed for the social welfare, Make sure the police department and vigilance act separately, under the IPS or IAS committee, which would be setup to look over it. No political leaders should allow manipulating the persons in the committee for their own interest. Strictly no caste quota should allow.

    6. Every manufacturer and importers should be in surveillance under the Maximum retail price committee, A new committee which scrutinize the MRP price, they print in the product and production cost. This will avoid the price rigging game played by the retailers and manufacturers. So the inflation is under control.

    7. Make stringent laws for corruption, minimum punishment to get dismissed from job, canceling Ration Cards, passport, no pension, no provident fund will be distributed for them and if any caste quota or scholarship for there children’s, just scrap that too, no more government jobs for their children’s and maximum punishment, up to death sentences, if their corruption yield to a innocence’s death or country’s security issue..(No more government benefits should be provided to them.)

    8. The important thing is, select only the educated and right candidate for the government job, instead of taking non-qualified persons through caste quota and political recommendations.(You may experienced, the under qualification issues in police station and bsnl office.)

    9. Make one local language and one National Language Mandatory to learn, to acquire a basic graduation, through out the nation, all the students should know the local and National language to get qualified for the graduation. (Personally saying, most of our citizens doesn’t understand what our prime minister and president is saying during the independent day speech, I feel so bad about it, and started to learn Hindi now)

    10. I must list this point as first one but, I need to make you all, get a feel of wondering, how, all the above points would be possible to implement.

    So here is the answer, when all the one billion and 9 crore people started to vote responsibly, without any religion, caste and personal barriers.

    I understand, you may now wonder how the 10th point is possible. So I need to ask you one question.


    Have you ever voted with responsibility and without any religion, caste and personal barriers?

    If yes, we almost succeeded to implement the above 9 points, just away of one billion, 8 crore, 99 lakhs, 99 thousands , 9 hundred and 99 people left to get awareness about their voting responsibility.

    To make it happen fast,
    Just do awareness about this; to the people you move around, your society, it makes the whole difference.

    Let’s join to make new India.
    Jai Hind.



    Comments, debates, new thoughts are openly welcomed here.
    i wrote it within one hour, so if there is any grammatical mistake,plz do correct me.
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    We always keep pointing fingers on others....the govt is not good, the politicians are not good, etc. But are we a good citizen first? Everyone of us here know the truth.That we are not. First we need to become a good citizen, then we can think of modifying other things.
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    hey i didn't pin point anybody,
    just i want to create an awareness among all.

    anyway your saying is right.
    i started trying to be a good citizen and i also want to make all aware to become a good citizen first.

    ramesh have you understood my feel, i just tried to make aware everybody, to be responsible including me. i am not blaming anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    hey i didn't pin point anybody,
    just i want to create an awareness among all.

    anyway your saying is right.
    i started trying to be a good citizen and i also want to make all aware to become a good citizen first.

    ramesh have you understood my feel, i just tried to make aware everybody, to be responsible including me. i am not blaming anybody.
    I am not blaming you my friend. I was just saying the fact...
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    ohh! i misunderstood your points. sorry pal.

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    You have an emphasis on education which is good.
    but I don't think there is a direct correlation between
    lack of education and corruption. A lot of educated
    people are as currupt as uneducated ones. The cause
    is somewhere else.

    -F

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    i would suggested that education make the man and everything better?

    Do you accept it or not.
    give your answer

    Because of the education we chat here and aware of the social responsibility.like this every body should educated.

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    Let me ask you a question, do you think if
    everyone in India becomes educated, corruption will
    disappear?

    -F

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    Let me ask you a question, do you think if
    everyone in India becomes educated, corruption will
    disappear?

    -F
    It ll Drastically reduce ......
    Look at the Devoloped Countries (^_^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    It ll Drastically reduce ......
    Look at the Devoloped Countries (^_^)
    One of the most common fallacies is mixing
    correlation and causation.

    developed countries have high education and less corruption
    but there is no evidence that one caused the other.

    -F

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    One of the most common fallacies is mixing
    correlation and causation.

    developed countries have high education and less corruption
    but there is no evidence that one caused the other.

    -F
    And one more common fallacy is to Completely ignore history .

    Do you think in the 17th and 18 th century the situation was similar [less corruption and high education there] in Europe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    ohh! i misunderstood your points. sorry pal.
    Before i forget

    Nice Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    Let me ask you a question, do you think if
    everyone in India becomes educated, corruption will
    disappear?

    -F
    I strongly hope that it will get reduce, people select the appropriate leaders and know their rights better.

    so by refining through generations, people will be knowing their social responsibility , which in turns make good leaders and leads to a corruption free country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    It ll Drastically reduce ......
    Look at the Devoloped Countries (^_^)
    Thanks for the support pal.

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    I too hope that will be nice if it happens, but I don't think it will happen.

    the world needs more optimists like you and Shadow.

    -F

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    Thanks for the support pal.
    Your welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    One of the most common fallacies is mixing
    correlation and causation.

    developed countries have high education and less corruption
    but there is no evidence that one caused the other.

    -F
    I was looking for a good debate on this point , But unfortunately Farce gave up/Lost interest/ran out of funky words too quickly
    Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 19th December 2008 at 07:16 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Farce,
    why you talking with, so much of frustration.

    Its our country and its our turn to make india better.

    So lets seed now, our future generations would get the fruit.

    jai hind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Your welcome



    I was looking for a good debate on this point , But unfortunately Farce gave up/Lost interest/ran out of funky words too quickly


    Shadow, I can jump back in and have a looooong debate and
    make this article the winner of the contest,
    if prasannaganesh agrees to split the winning prize with us ;-)

    -F

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    We must make it happen. just inform your friends and neighbors to vote responsibly.So we get good leaders. if we get good leaders, we get good development and good education,
    so when we get good education, better and refined leaders will be cultivated.
    so this is a continuous process.
    So let start now with unity.

    Tell me farce,
    Are you with us.

    farce,
    If you think i wrote it for prize money, then i feel bad about it.

    i prove it by donating the prize money to a NGO , if i won.
    ok.done.

    Got ready for the debate.

    Shadow, i am confident, we would win.
    what you say.
    Jai hind.
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    Sorry for sounding frustrated. Actually I am a positive person.

    Just because I am not expecting anything to change does not
    mean I won't fight for it. I do support education, reduce
    population growth, harsh punishments for criminals etc.

    One of my favourite quotes from the Shawshank Redemption

    "hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

    -F

    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post

    farce,
    If you think i wrote it for prize money, then i feel bad about it.

    Jai hind.
    As you get to know me more you will know I joke a lot. that was not
    serious at all, I was just kidding around. I think you have a good heart
    so don't take that comment seriously.

    -F
    Last edited by Punch Farce; 19th December 2008 at 07:31 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    farce,
    If you think i wrote it for prize money, then i feel bad about it.

    i prove it by donating the prize money to a NGO , if i won.
    ok.done.

    Got ready for the debate.

    Shadow, i am confident, we would win.
    what you say.
    Jai hind.
    i quoted again to assure you all.
    my price money will be given to an NGO directly through admin.
    done.
    pakka.

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    its ok. i dont took serious.

    But what i said before is still valid,i will donate money.
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    Oops sorry,i got it. just i added along with my post.

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    i expected that,After reading this thread, more new views and suggestions would come for the discussion, but i got disappointment guys.

    Why aren't you guys refine the points with your view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    i expected that,After reading this thread, more new views and suggestions would come for the discussion, but i got disappointment guys.

    Why aren't you guys refine the points with your view.
    This itself shows thats how much people are bothered about the country...
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    yes, Ramesh i feel bad, but i don't abandon the task of creating awareness.
    I hope we will get good support in near future.
    Anyway I am very much glad that ,you guys came and responded for this thread.
    Thank you very much.

    and to shadow and farce also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    its ok. i dont took serious.

    But what i said before is still valid,i will donate money.
    he was kidding :lol: :lol: :lol: .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post


    Shadow, I can jump back in and have a looooong debate and
    make this article the winner of the contest,
    if prasannaganesh agrees to split the winning prize with us ;-)

    -F


    u sly devil

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    1. Population control by adhering to one child policy.
    This extra population is one of the biggest asset we have as a nation and you want to take it away? One child policy in China was a blunder and it cannot be implemented in India any way because we are a democratic country not a dictatorship. Indira Gandhi tried to sterilize the masses by force and that chapter didint go down very well in history.




    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    2. Make education through out the country free, up to the under graduate studies. Just cancel the quota allocation at least for the basic schoolings and undergraduate.
    Schooling is free or almost free in government schools. Its just a few rupees per month and they even provide dresses and books to economically weaker classes. I am not aware of any quotas at schools. There weren't any when I was at school.



    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    3. All the educational institutions should bring under government scanner and make sure they don’t run a financial institution instead,
    Thats a big no no. Private sector in my opinion should be allowed to operate freely. The governments role should be just to provide cheaper loans to students with no or very low interest rates without guarantors.


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    4. Basic qualification for contesting in election should be an under graduate with good academic record. (Correspondent or postal should not be treated as the qualification)
    This cannot be implemented as our constitution gives this right to every one and treats every one as equals regardless of their education. I personally believe a finance minister should be qualified in that field, A defense minister should come from similar background and so on with atleast a graduate degree I would say.


    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    5. Restructure the police department. No more constables->head constable->sub inspector->inspector structure. Basic qualification for the police department should be an Under Graduate with a specialization designed for the social welfare, Make sure the police department and vigilance act separately, under the IPS or IAS committee, which would be setup to look over it. No political leaders should allow manipulating the persons in the committee for their own interest. Strictly no caste quota should allow.
    Accountability is the key.



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    6. Every manufacturer and importers should be in surveillance under the Maximum retail price committee, A new committee which scrutinize the MRP price, they print in the product and production cost. This will avoid the price rigging game played by the retailers and manufacturers. So the inflation is under control.
    This MRP system is bullshit. We should not have a max retail price for everything. If there wasent a max retail price profits would go up for manufacturers and retailers and all the middle men involved and this would result in more people being interested in investing money into production which would result in increased supply which in the long run would curb high prices as there would be enough competition. Today we have a demand supply mismatch in India and demand far outpaces supply which is the root cause of the hyper inflation we have seen in the past 4-5 years. MRP crap needs to go. I have traveled across the world and never seen MRP else where. Every retailer is allowed to decide their price and never have I seen them profiting unduely. Things actually cost less in most countries when it comes to basic stuff like milk and bread and all that but with this MRP **** here in India it turns out costlier.



    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    7. Make stringent laws for corruption, minimum punishment to get dismissed from job, canceling Ration Cards, passport, no pension, no provident fund will be distributed for them and if any caste quota or scholarship for there children’s, just scrap that too, no more government jobs for their children’s and maximum punishment, up to death sentences, if their corruption yield to a innocence’s death or country’s security issue..(No more government benefits should be provided to them.)
    WoW that's a bit harsh. Why should children suffer if someone has wronged. It like labeling the whole family corrupt. dismissal from the job is a good option but I am not sure about the rest of the draconian measures you have listed



    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    8. The important thing is, select only the educated and right candidate for the government job, instead of taking non-qualified persons through caste quota and political recommendations.(You may experienced, the under qualification issues in police station and bsnl office.)
    Who wants a government job these days?



    Quote Originally Posted by prasannaganesh View Post
    9. Make one local language and one National Language Mandatory to learn, to acquire a basic graduation, through out the nation, all the students should know the local and National language to get qualified for the graduation. (Personally saying, most of our citizens doesn’t understand what our prime minister and president is saying during the independent day speech, I feel so bad about it, and started to learn Hindi now)
    Would it help if they understood what the Presidents and Prime ministers says in their speeches? I haven't heard them say anything useful in my living memory. English is the international language and every one should learn English I believe if they want to get any where in their lives. Hindi yes good to learn but it hardly help in building a career. Everything is done in English and these computers work well with English as well.




    All in all if we leave this country in your hands to do whatever you feel is right then we would go back to the stone age soon Dont get me wrong but the stuff you have posted here is just laughable.

    PS : No offense intended

    Peace

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