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About LinkBacksoops sorry for the late reply.Originally Posted by Evander Leopold
i just now noticed.
I mean to ask, the people you wish to see as PM and their unique character, which makes them special.
i support you with open heart.
oops sorry for the late reply.
i just now noticed.
I mean to ask, the people you wish to see as PM and their unique character, which makes them special.
i support you with open heart.
Last edited by prasannaganesh; 01-06-09 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Thanks mate, we need guys like you
According to me PM should have following characteristics:
-> He should be literate, not necessary he should know english but yes he should know Hindi, our national language.
-> He should have sympathy for poor and love for his country.
-> He should know the importance of technology.
-> There should not be any reservation stuff and all are at equal level.
-> Most important : He should have vision to make India superpower.
-> who makes our country corruption free.
and yes i agree with one of the post that one person can not do all these things but yes together we can do it and he should have ability to make his vision, country's vision.
And i strongly disagree with people who think that NAMO can become good PM. He's just good speaker but not good leader. He's just the power of speech. He's fond of publicity only and people will come to know about his other side when his time will be over. (My intention is not to hurt anyone who supports him, these are my personal views about CM of our state)
And if anyone want to know the qualities of PM then he should read Ignited Mind of APJ Abdul kalam..
Thank You..
Let me analyze that for u :
-> He should be literate, not necessary he should know english but yes he should know Hindi, our national language. ( Havent we made enough fool of ourselves already that u want to make a blazing idiot our PM )
-> He should have sympathy for poor and love for his country. ( we can import someone from the vatican, they have lots of love to give )
-> He should know the importance of technology. ( good point, that leaves the communists out )
-> There should not be any reservation stuff and all are at equal level. ( the guy has got to be suicidal to implement that thought )
-> Most important : He should have vision to make India superpower. ( Hmmm, lets just start with gaining some powers first )
-> who makes our country corruption free. ( who at least "tries" to make our country corruption free )
Nice thoughts buddy. But the only guy who comes to mind from that description of yours was traded by our glorified leaders like a box of darjeeling tea, more than 50 years ago.
This is very easy to say that we are all equal but real fact is that Indian society is totally divided in cast still lots of person are victim of this whether in city or village lots person telling that we are equal because of their own interest and reservation is not new and unique in India all over the world(most of the part) this process has taken to create equal of each and every society and cast.
Last edited by rupu1983; 01-20-09 at 09:47 PM.
Hi Evander Leopold,
Let me elaborate myself to you.
For my fist point:
Why do we love anything foreign inspite of having our own culture, capabilities whereas other countries stick to their own culture, language? Though English is International language, Japan is the country that uses their own language, culture and everything and still much ahead of India. Another Example is China. And if you think that PM who doesn’t know English but Hindi is an idiot (the word you used), then you should rethink. Recently one of the delegates from Kenya at Vibrant Gujarat delivered in his own speech rather than English. (My thought: Everything should be Indian whether it is language, culture etc)
I am not opposing English to be accepted as one of the language. It should be used for international correspondence.
Second Point:
Yes of course you can invite any one, but point here’s that he should proud of his own country. He should do the real work (remove poverty by understanding the needs of poor people and he can do that thing only if he’s sympathy for them).
Third Point:
Since the last sixty years, India has been a developing country. It means economically it is not strong, socially it is not stable, in security aspects it is not self reliant and that is why it is called developing country. How do we transform a developing country in to a developed country in next twenty years? We have 5 areas to transform India:
Education, Healthcare, Agriculture, Information and communication, Infrastructure and critical Technology.
Fourth & Fifth Point:
the guy has got to be suicidal to implement that thought
ha ha..Then whom do you call real leader, if it is not possible. The most important and urgent task before our leadership is to get all the forces for constructive change together and deploy them in a mission mode and for that he must have vision. He must have the ability to make others join their endeavor to convert dreams in to reality. (What everyone is expecting from Barack Obama).
Sixth Point:
Still today there are some people who try for that. They are making each and every effort to remove corruption and I am one of them. Those who don’t believe themselves can’t do so.
Again these are my personal thoughts, not necessary that you agree to it. I am posting this in bit hurry so ignore any grammatical mistake..By the way it’s a good discussion with you Mr. Sumit Kumar Ghosh. Have a great time..3/\/J0!
My thoughts on point No1
[already stated in previous posts of mine]
He should know fluent Hindi as well as English ....... This is not about Patriotism or Loving anything that is Foreign ..... The chief necessity for a PM is to negotiate deals/agreements etc with the leaders of Other countries .... As English happens to be a universal language [understood by very many people] its a very useful language to learn ..... Having a translator for everything really sucks .....
About the Japanese PM ... i read an article a while back in which the Japanese PM was stated as having said that he wished he could speak English as well as Dr ManMohan Singh [who is not an Englishman by birth like him].... And there is no relation to Chinese economy's advancement and the Chinese PM not knowing English [Remember we r talking about the PM not the people]
i need a PM who loves the country more than his party,money and his own post.
easy, easy, nilact
My point was, I have heard such talks so much that lately I have begun to see Terry Pratchett as an author of modern history. Let me assure you once again that nothing would delight me more than a good PM. But, can we really get one ?
NO, WE CAN'T.
Why not ? because a pyramid cant stand erect without a base. And to create a decent base we need many decent stone slabs. We dont have that many good individuals in politics to back up that ideal guy u want as a PM. If they hear about such a guy, they will kill him while he is still in his mom's womb. Well, that sounded a bit tacky :lol: but trust me, thats the way things are everywhere. And there is absolutely no way to rebuild this entire system. This is true for every nation/country. Think of the countries as machines. India is one with too many crooked parts installed by the brits and others filths who invaded this place. We didnt have enough time (or qualified people) to stamp out those parts and reorganize the whole system before BOOTING it. So, we are still running with it.
by the way, how did u know my name ?
In recent pasts, i have liked Atal Bihari as a PM.
that was good, IMO
exactly what i thought..easy, easy, nilact
My point was, I have heard such talks so much that lately I have begun to see Terry Pratchett as an author of modern history. Let me assure you once again that nothing would delight me more than a good PM. But, can we really get one ?
NO, WE CAN'T.
Why not ? because a pyramid cant stand erect without a base. And to create a decent base we need many decent stone slabs. We dont have that many good individuals in politics to back up that ideal guy u want as a PM. If they hear about such a guy, they will kill him while he is still in his mom's womb. Well, that sounded a bit tacky :lol: but trust me, thats the way things are everywhere. And there is absolutely no way to rebuild this entire system. This is true for every nation/country. Think of the countries as machines. India is one with too many crooked parts installed by the brits and others filths who invaded this place. We didnt have enough time (or qualified people) to stamp out those parts and reorganize the whole system before BOOTING it. So, we are still running with it.
but i still have faith to change my mother land.
don't you?.
the "faith" will let us all to reach the destiny we love.
i loved your narration,
so lets start now to rework the base, then the peak will be reached soon by us.
Thats the spirit
Shadowcon can you give an example where other European people(Spanish,French,German,Italian,Portuguese) learning english (frace-jac chirac,Russia-Vladimir putin) they will never talk in English but they build developed country and they made the deal/agreement also and most of the Latin American never know English
another answer please give me anyone first why scientific names are in Latin ? (generally Europeans read the English as foreign language category)
Last edited by rupu1983; 01-21-09 at 01:04 AM.
Before we can ask for the ideal PM, we must first be the ideal citizen. In a democratic set-up it is not only the right but also the duty of every citizen to exercise their votes. But statistics show that not even half of the so called educated and enlightened Indians bother to go to the polling booth.
Dr. APJ was the first Indian President ever to have exercised his voting rights while in office.
How can we get the better (IDEAL is a long way to go) PM if we do not even bother to vote for him.
They built ?? I said the PM has to know English not the people ...... Do you know why France,Japan is not the world leader in spite of them being as good as Americans .
Vladmir Putin
Vladimir Putin is a smart guy . He speaks perfectly fluent English [without an accent] . who said he doesnt know English??
I too suggested over PM should know Hindi and English
What language do you think they speak in Latin America ?? :amazed:and most of the Latin American never know English
Spanish and Portuguese ....why so? Because they were formerly colonies of Spain and Portugal just like India was a colony of Britain
Because of 2 reasonsanother answer please give me anyone first why scientific names are in Latin ? (generally Europeans read the English as foreign language category)
1) Latin is the language of Rome where many ancient discoveries were made
2) English is a Germanic language which also has a lot of Latin influence .so they were used unchanged in the English language
France/spanish/Italian all have their roots in Latin ..... Latin is to Europe what Sanskrit is to India ..... And yet Hindi not sanskrit is our National language
Likewise English not Latin is the universal language
I hope u r not thinking that Latin is the language which originated in latin America
I say Putin never want to speak in English and just check the stat of Russsia & France how many people know English America is country where most of the European stayed(specially English man) from old age.
Your reason can't explain is partially true but main thing why this old language ? where most of the person speak in English.Actually the main reason is most of the european country never want to accept the english as scientific name this big debate has only one solution to create it a old language and mother language
I don't know why you are thinking Russia, Frace is not developed country and why every country should follow america ?
We r not talking about the people ....... We r talking about the PM
what i said from my previous post
\so a PM needs to know English ...not talking about people hereThe chief necessity for a PM is to negotiate deals/agreements etc with the leaders of Other countries .... As English happens to be a universal language [understood by very many people] its a very useful language to learn ..... Having a translator for everything really sucks .....
Putin does not like to speak English and yet he knows perfect English ...there is a good Reason heh?
The PM should definitely know english, because at some point we need unification in the languages. Something should be common between all of us. Otherwise it would be utter chaos. And what language can we think of in such a case except english ?
Just before i login here i read few European people comments on english language in BBC majority replied that no need of intermediate language both can easily talk with interpreter and also people will decide himself that which language they want to communicate each other.Don't think that i am very much agree with that comment but still personally i feel at least PM don't have much problem to talk with other country's person without knowledge of English if any one is very much eligible in other prospective then he/she can be good prime minister accept the knowledge of English also.
Please Go through my previous post, i already mentioned that english should be accepted for International correspondence. And of course it is about patriotism.
There you are..one should have faith in him self and to change the system one has to be in the system. One can not change it without being the part of the system. Great minds have the ablility to make others join their endeavor to convert dreams in to reality? Will you ever try to be part of the system to make it clean and clear? Not necessary you become leader, but you can do it in many ways..easy, easy, nilact
My point was, I have heard such talks so much that lately I have begun to see Terry Pratchett as an author of modern history. Let me assure you once again that nothing would delight me more than a good PM. But, can we really get one ?
NO, WE CAN'T.
Why not ? because a pyramid cant stand erect without a base. And to create a decent base we need many decent stone slabs. We dont have that many good individuals in politics to back up that ideal guy u want as a PM. If they hear about such a guy, they will kill him while he is still in his mom's womb. Well, that sounded a bit tacky :lol: but trust me, thats the way things are everywhere. And there is absolutely no way to rebuild this entire system. This is true for every nation/country. Think of the countries as machines. India is one with too many crooked parts installed by the brits and others filths who invaded this place. We didnt have enough time (or qualified people) to stamp out those parts and reorganize the whole system before BOOTING it. So, we are still running with it.
by the way, how did u know my name ?
Anyways i saw your name when you post message on Doctor's profile..
Have a great time...[
i third it.
if only voting on forums was allowed....
OK. You are going a little overboard. Obama was just sworn in yesterday. History will alone say what kind of president he will make.
i meant someone who can evoke such emotions out of the common people.someone who could speak so well.
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