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    The mother tongue is the true vehicle of the mother wit. Another medium of speech may bring with it a current of new ideas. But the mother tongue is one in which a man is born. It is through the vernacular that the new conceptions of the mind should press their way to birth in speech. A manís native speech is almost like his shadow, inseparable from his personality but in last few year mother tongue is losing importance in day by day and after few year I have doubt that very little person may even talk in mother tongue (few area of India specially in city).In these days few person already talk in English at home and also out side. May be itís a effect of globalization but still others European country are maintaining their own language very well but in India if this thing is going on then few Indian prosperous language will be disappear. So what do you think?
    Mother language should be compulsory in primary education?
    Just to think easier I have added few lines of our great freedom fighterís autobiography
    Polak and I had often very heated discussion about the desirability or otherwise of giving the children an English education. It has always been my conviction that Indian parents who train their children to think and talk in English from their infancy betray their children and their country. They deprive them of the spiritual and social heritage of the nation, and render them to that extent unfit for the service of the country. Having these convictions, I made a point of always talking to my children in Gujarati. Polak never liked it. He thought I was spoiling their future. He contended, with all the vigour and love at his command, that, if children were to learn universal language like English from infancy, they would easily gain considerable advantage over others in the race of life. He failed to convince me.

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    but its is very much necessary to learn English tooo!! PRolyl mother tongue shud b the second language compulaosry at schools....
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    English is necessary but Mother Toungue is equally important. We too speak only Marathi at home.
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    We also value our mother tongue a lot. In the schools and colleges, they ask you to talk in English, but we keep talking in Malayalam...

    For those who don't know about Malayalam

    It's a really beautiful language, best in "expressing"....and all.....

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    in professional life Mothertongue may not be that effective......but i think it will remain major part of everyones life.....almost every child speaks the first words of his life in his/her own mothertongue......& first things are always special
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    We also value our mother tongue a lot. In the schools and colleges, they ask you to talk in English, but we keep talking in Malayalam...

    For those who don't know about Malayalam

    It's a really beautiful language, best in "expressing"....and all.....
    I know few word in mallu: Patti,Molay,Chaychi....
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    i think Ramesh you know tamil,hindi two Indian language very well any other ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    i think Ramesh you know tamil,hindi two Indian language very well any other ?
    I know Marwari, its my mother tongue...
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    I know few Marwari person in kolkata but they talk us either in Hindi or Bengali,Now my question is Marwari is quite similar to Hindi or it's totally different than Hindi

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    I know few Marwari person in kolkata but they talk us either in Hindi or Bengali,Now my question is Marwari is quite similar to Hindi or it's totally different than Hindi
    Its not totally different,its somewhat similar only....
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    i cud understnd marwari really well ...but now i need to refresh it a bit.....i can speak, read n write gujarati & hindi very well....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rameshjeee View Post
    I know few word in mallu: Patti,Molay,Chaychi....
    LOL!!
    That are some words you need to know...

    I can speak, read and write Hindi, Malyalam and English. I can understand Tamil and I have learnt Sanskrit for a very short period of time.

    And, I am also interested in French. But, I won't be able to talk like usual in French.
    I just know some important and usual words you need to know.
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    I find it difficult to communicate in my mother tongue, so I use the regional language at home.
    Language is always meant to be a means of communication, not a barrier.
    So the question of mother tongue losing its importance doesn't matter.

    I find it difficult to communicate in my mother tongue, so I use the regional language at home.
    Language is always meant to be a means of communication, not a barrier.
    So the question of mother tongue losing its importance doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    LOL!!
    That are some words you need to know...

    I can speak, read and write Hindi, Malyalam and English. I can understand Tamil and I have learnt Sanskrit for a very short period of time.

    And, I am also interested in French. But, I won't be able to talk like usual in French.
    I just know some important and usual words you need to know.

    Personally I speak Malayalam (mother tongue) and understand it very well. But being brought up in another regional state, I did not realize the importance of reading and writing the language also. My wife who is a Telguite by birth does no speak telgu. Infact at her home they migrated from Andhra a long time back so none of the family member speak in telgu. They prefer speaking tamil over Telgu. She is right now trying to learn telugu the hardway. As for languages, English and Hindi I can read,write,speak and understand. Malayalam and Tamil I can speak and understand. I also understand a little bit of telgu, kannada and very little of marathi. French is something i started but left in the middle.


    In an intercaste marriage, the kid has to learn both tongues (mother and father ) :38:

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikramjb View Post
    Personally I speak Malayalam (mother tongue) and understand it very well. But being brought up in another regional state, I did not realize the importance of reading and writing the language also. My wife who is a Telguite by birth does no speak telgu. Infact at her home they migrated from Andhra a long time back so none of the family member speak in telgu. They prefer speaking tamil over Telgu. She is right now trying to learn telugu the hardway. As for languages, English and Hindi I can read,write,speak and understand. Malayalam and Tamil I can speak and understand. I also understand a little bit of telgu, kannada and very little of marathi. French is something i started but left in the middle.


    In an intercaste marriage, the kid has to learn both tongues (mother and father ) :38:
    That was interesting of you.. Yes, most people who migrate from their homeland donot care much about trying to atleast read and write their mother tongue well. I know many people who don't know how to read well the language they speak well.:lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    Yes, most people who migrate from their homeland donot care much about trying to atleast read and write their mother tongue well.
    True, I did not realize the importance of of reading and writing my own mother toungue, but now I am slowly learning to read and write malayalam. Next will be Tamil and then probably other language and by that I will be 80 yrs old :6: :angel:

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    Oh sure make it compulsory to speak/learn regional languages and create a wider barrier amongst Indians...

    We DO NOT need such things in India. I hear enough horror stories of people visiting Tamil Nadu and natives refusing to talk in Hindi, and politicians like Thackarey that use such weapons to divide people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnash View Post
    Oh sure make it compulsory to speak/learn regional languages and create a wider barrier amongst Indians...

    We DO NOT need such things in India. I hear enough horror stories of people visiting Tamil Nadu and natives refusing to talk in Hindi, and politicians like Thackarey that use such weapons to divide people.
    Every language has its own quality, clarity and dignity. And, you can't just say that languages are weapons for communal wars, but, it would be rather good if you say that languages are weapons which can be used to shoot out your views and those who use it as a weapon for invoking communal wars and all need to be punished.

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    yeah way to go dhanesh v.....!!!

    but u kno these ministers make language also one of the reasons for communal wars...!!! its a fact tht we all thought n infact experienced also personally tht ppl in TN dont even bother to reply back if u ask them nything in hindi.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    yeah way to go dhanesh v.....!!!

    but u kno these ministers make language also one of the reasons for communal wars...!!! its a fact tht we all thought n infact experienced also personally tht ppl in TN dont even bother to reply back if u ask them nything in hindi.......
    A single old politician makes a big hulla bulla bout languages here in TN. But we have people in all states, like recently in Karnataka there was a big issue about Tamil movies being released and Kannada Language not being given due importance. In Andhra, they are asking for a separate state called Teluga
    na, Thackeray is busy in Maharashtra and so on..

    Frankly i think its important we learn mother tongue but I don't think there is any need to be fanatic about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    yeah way to go dhanesh v.....!!!

    but u kno these ministers make language also one of the reasons for communal wars...!!! its a fact tht we all thought n infact experienced also personally tht ppl in TN dont even bother to reply back if u ask them nything in hindi.......
    I think that it is not so different here also. But, there are some people who do like helping in this new generation of youth here. Most of the youth here do help others while some show too much of the 'I'm the dada' thing.

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    We should really think on this, generally we use either Hindi or English while talking. It is necessary but, also we should remember our mother tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robdale View Post
    We should really think on this, generally we use either Hindi or English while talking. It is necessary but, also we should remember our mother tongue.
    You mean that you may forget your mothertongue??
    LOL!!!

    I don't think one can just forget it. Anyway, if you don't know your mother tongue (:lol, then how will you communicate to other people in your mother land.

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    yes valid point dhaneshv....!!!

    i really wonder if a perosn @ his home speaks in mother tongue than how wud he be able to forget it....???? btw i feel its really necessary to atleast kno u mother tongue & national language....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    yes valid point dhaneshv....!!!

    i really wonder if a perosn @ his home speaks in mother tongue than how wud he be able to forget it....???? btw i feel its really necessary to atleast kno u mother tongue & national language....!
    You are right.
    But, there are still many children in our country who are not getting proper education and other facilities.
    And hence, learning the national language will be difficult for many..

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    'national language' aint that easy especialy if ur from a place tht speaks a totally diffe language.
    but if u dont know it ur screwd when u move outta ur town ..
    trust me.i experience it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexina View Post
    'national language' aint that easy especialy if ur from a place tht speaks a totally diffe language.
    but if u dont know it ur screwd when u move outta ur town ..
    trust me.i experience it
    You come from which state?

    Most of the new students do not opt for Hindi as their second language here...
    They think that its so hard and that they won't get good marks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    I don't think one can just forget it. Anyway, if you don't know your mother tongue (:lol, then how will you communicate to other people in your mother land.
    Don't worry Dhanesh after few year Indian language will be almost disappear from metro city and English will be the only language for working & communicating purpose.Now i think we don't need to think it again because we already did surrender in front of English base globalization and tell me why we will learn our mother language just to talk with some "illiterate Indian" never. What will give us this language ? nothing all official purpose, all high society never give us any reputation.After all English can help us to earn lot money ,to set brilliant carrier,to belongs a high society.And the words of heritage of country and involvement the emotion of ancestors with our mother language is just the word of "mad" & "foolish person".Now the intelligent person's view is carrier is the biggest ideology and money is the ultimate goal now why we should care about "other or mother" (both become same for us) language ?

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    well u r talkin way to practical .....n i think its not acceptable....tooo!!!!

    rupu u r only talkin about only some set of class people......!!! In India, it wud take sooo many years ......for everyone to learn to read n understnd English.....
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    You maybe right...
    But still....
    English cannot give us the same feeling that we get from our mother tongue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    You maybe right...
    But still....
    English cannot give us the same feeling that we get from our mother tongue...
    i agree.....

    the language we hv spoken since when we hv started speaking is most comfortable......

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post
    You come from which state?

    Most of the new students do not opt for Hindi as their second language here...
    They think that its so hard and that they won't get good marks...
    surprise im from kerala too...
    but the best part is i learnt hindi till 10th and even then my hindi is pathetic...
    pathetic to the limit that i need a translator next to me when i see a hindi movie..

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    omg.....alexina....!!! how come ???

    yea a person is always comfortable in the language he speaks from his birth....be it his mother tongue or national language or english.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    well u r talkin way to practical .....n i think its not acceptable....tooo!!!!

    rupu u r only talkin about only some set of class people......!!! In India, it wud take sooo many years ......for everyone to learn to read n understnd English.....
    I think you miss my tone. Actually in last reply what i wrote that's not my personal view i have written it because lot of the person of our society is thinking like that way only i represent them.
    Seriously i worried very much because future of mother language is very dark. Our traditional language which may will die if front of our eyes (may be 30-40 years).That's why i choice that negative way to protest it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexina View Post
    surprise im from kerala too...
    but the best part is i learnt hindi till 10th and even then my hindi is pathetic...
    pathetic to the limit that i need a translator next to me when i see a hindi movie..
    I had also learnt Hindi from 4th to 10th...
    What marks did you get for Hindi in the 10th Final?

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    hmmmm alrite.....!!!!! cool it cool it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    hmmmm alrite.....!!!!! cool it cool it....
    Cool what??
    His radiator? :lol:

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    lol....u r too much dhanesh v...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    lol....u r too much dhanesh v...
    You are wrong. I am three much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    I know few Marwari person in kolkata but they talk us either in Hindi or Bengali,Now my question is Marwari is quite similar to Hindi or it's totally different than Hindi
    i am sorry that i am quoting a very old post -

    @ rupu

    i am a marwari from kolkata ... marwari language is very different from hindi .. the words sound similar ... but its a complete language in itself...

    i speak equally good hindi and bengali ... most of my friends are bengali and they always say - that we havent seen any non-bengali speak such fluent bengali ever ... no stranger with whom i speak in bengali ever realizes that i am a non-bengali ...

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    As i ask to Ramesh because really i don't know much about Marwari language

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    i think, most influential language in my life is not even bengali...

    how so we speak it in home...but i think in hindi , and so its the language that matters to me...even now i have to think in hindi and than convert that to english...

    english is not my language....

    i think, most influential language in my life is not even bengali...

    how so we speak it in home...but i think in hindi , and so its the language that matters to me...even now i have to think in hindi and than convert that to english...

    english is not my language....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    As i ask to Ramesh because really i don't know much about Marwari language
    How can I help you my friend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    i am sorry that i am quoting a very old post -

    @ rupu

    i am a marwari from kolkata ... marwari language is very different from hindi .. the words sound similar ... but its a complete language in itself...

    i speak equally good hindi and bengali ... most of my friends are bengali and they always say - that we havent seen any non-bengali speak such fluent bengali ever ... no stranger with whom i speak in bengali ever realizes that i am a non-bengali ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Rameshjeee View Post
    How can I help you my friend?
    Thanks ramesh nothing else ,Sourav has quoted my post that's why i told him why i have written that post in that particular day.

    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    is Marwari is quite similar to Hindi or it's totally different than Hindi

    Quote Originally Posted by Rameshjeee View Post
    Its not totally different,its somewhat similar only....

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    Same goes for my wife. She spent 5 years in bangalore and speaks kannada better than any kannadiga can and her mother tongue is Telugu which is not very comfortable with. She is comfortable speaking in Malyalam (my mother toungue) rather than telugu. It's not that she doesn't like that language, nobody even in her house speak Telugu so she doesn't
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    yes usually it is soo tht wht u speak at home , locally & at work ....a person gets used to tht one.......like if u r a marathi & speak marathi even in blore than u still kno the language n converse but if the family doesnt speak marathi than obviously how will u kno......so it all depends wht u language u speak normally....
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    My mother tongue is Marwari & I was born & brought up here in Chennai...
    In the home, I speak in the mother tongue...outside I speak tamil only...
    I speak tamil very well...
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    Because of the Poll this post by @rameshjee
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    @admin Please lock the poll and or thread
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    Probably my name will come in future !

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    I don't think so but yes, with the increasing stress on English, one oftens tends to speak more in english.

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