Should the tension between pakistan and India calm down

Well everyone is fustrated pakistani and indians. mostly because of the news channel. indian have full rights to be angry and fustrated but pakistan too. pakistan is been fighting terrisom and has lost a lot too. i see a lot or views of all kinda people there mostly saying we want war. should war happen? what are we going to achive other than more people dying. THINK ABOUT IT its very easy to say and type we want war. but do we actually? LOOK WHATS HAPPENING IN GAZA is tht wat we want. Hatred increasing in our new generations

I dunno why the Indian govt. is still requesting/begging to the Paki govt to take action..Indian should attack all the terrorist camps in Pakistan.The only concern why Indian Govt is hesitating is that the Paki have nuclear weapon...

Yes because Indian intelligent are feeling that if India attack to the Pakistan terrorist camp then they will do full phase fight against India in total indo-pak border & they are also nuclear power.But still i think India should take few positive & aggressive step like you mention.

India is hoping to get the US to take some action against PAK but imo it's not goin to happen.

i guess nuclear weapons are not the problem the main problem is of UNs Rules........

Originally Posted by Rameshjeee

I dunno why the Indian govt. is still requesting/begging to the Paki govt to take action..Indian should attack all the terrorist camps in Pakistan.The only concern why Indian Govt is hesitating is that the Paki have nuclear weapon...

I totally go with u jee......y the heck do we always have to request n beg.....n after soo much of happenings...its high time we - the govt shud understnd things....!!! if things like this wud ve happened in US or nywhr ......shud nyone ve spared the country.....

i mean its obvious jus attack em.....its no point talking to em......!!!!

Ahmmm i would say that Pakistan should charge anyone here involved and make peace with India and do business

Originally Posted by SBey

Ahmmm i would say that Pakistan should charge anyone here involved and make peace with India and do business

I heard in news about swat vally that all schools are shut and no female education and all that... Do you think Pakistan government is really in control?
I dont think so... If the government was in control there is no was such agression would be tolerated in any part of the world... its a basic right of any individual to get educated.

Originally Posted by Admin

I heard in news about swat vally that all schools are shut and no female education and all that... Do you think Pakistan government is really in control?
I dont think so... If the government was in control there is no was such agression would be tolerated in any part of the world... its a basic right of any individual to get educated.

I agree that there aint control but it looks like its fall out of Afghan war cuz we folks are just amazed that where these shariat guys came from nowhere...heard that Gov. considering a very big operation now.

Are these people who have imposed all those restrictions local or have they come from other countries?

Originally Posted by Admin

Are these people who have imposed all those restrictions local or have they come from other countries?

Dont know the exact number but yes there are many foreigners here which came here during 'afghan jihad'

Actually, the word 'war' had came from the Pakistanis' side. When India hadn't even mentioned anything that would come to the word 'war', the Paks started saying that they are equipped to face a war and that they would strike back if India tries to attack them. If the Paks were trying to save themselves from the truth, I would say that they are just mere fools.

Originally Posted by dhaneshv

Actually, the word 'war' had came from the Pakistanis' side. When India hadn't even mentioned anything that would come to the word 'war', the Paks started saying that they are equipped to face a war and that they would strike back if India tries to attack them. If the Paks were trying to save themselves from the truth, I would say that they are just mere fools.

Ahmm no Pakistanis just reacted to ur media reaction otherwise from first moment they wanted to help in investigation.

I have always wanted to visit Lahore Are old building and forts and all preserved well?
My Grand dad used to talk a lot about Lahore as he used to go there for business before independence.

my dear friend....

India should down Pakistan now...

i dont know why you keep a soft side for those people who in the name of a religion kill others....

no religion ever told to kill people anonymously because they didnt belonged to the specific religion...is it written anywhere in the hadiths and qurran to kill innocent people who dont have faith in Islam and are of other religions...????


its not just the pakistanies, there are inbonned muslim traitors in our own country who are working in the name of fakeism..that is to make India a muslim country by 2030??isnt it so??that muslims dont vote to any party which in anyway is helping the majority of people who are poor(even if hindu or muslim or sikh)

there are hindu traitors too, but they dont kill people....

why only muslims feel to take justice in hands...
and if they have such feeling, i peruse, 'Justice in own hands" . than why cant hindus too take justice in own hands in the name of Hiinduism...where will muslims go if the 100 million majority of India, the hindus start a dharmayudha against the radical islamists??

muslims in general dont ever think, that by going against the society they are digging the well for themsleves...


sorry to say but i feel, pakistan would be a history name, in some years...

God Bless India, our motherland....

Originally Posted by Admin

I have always wanted to visit Lahore Are old building and forts and all preserved well?
My Grand dad used to talk a lot about Lahore as he used to go there for business before independence.

Yep they are well preserved Lahore Fort,Badshahi mosque,Govt college :001_tongue: etc

Originally Posted by mail2sc

my dear friend....

India should down Pakistan now...

i dont know why you keep a soft side for those people who in the name of a religion kill others....

no religion ever told to kill people anonymously because they didnt belonged to the specific religion...is it written anywhere in the hadiths and qurran to kill innocent people who dont have faith in Islam and are of other religions...????


its not just the pakistanies, there are inbonned muslim traitors in our own country who are working in the name of fakeism..that is to make India a muslim country by 2030??isnt it so??that muslims dont vote to any party which in anyway is helping the majority of people who are poor(even if hindu or muslim or sikh)

there are hindu traitors too, but they dont kill people....

why only muslims feel to take justice in hands...
and if they have such feeling, i peruse, 'Justice in own hands" . than why cant hindus too take justice in own hands in the name of Hiinduism...where will muslims go if the 100 million majority of India, the hindus start a dharmayudha against the radical islamists??

muslims in general dont ever think, that by going against the society they are digging the well for themsleves...


sorry to say but i feel, pakistan would be a history name, in some years...

God Bless India, our motherland....

I dont agree,i dont think about India like that and i dont have any religious affiliation either nor i ever had soft concern for these fanatics usually muslims who are making whole PK hostage.

WoW,
Ive been wagah border twice and it would be such an experience if we were allowed to just drive through to the other side... The only two reasons I didnt visit Pakistan yet is that we are not allowed to take our cars through the border and second once I get an arrival stamp of Pakistan in my passport my security check time at al airports will double... they grill people with Pakistan visits too much so I thought its just not worth the hassel
But I would sure like to visit Lahore one day and have some good food there

Originally Posted by SBey

Ahmm no Pakistanis just reacted to ur media reaction otherwise from first moment they wanted to help in investigation.

you guys have always helped India alot,,

either it be 1965, or 1971 or 1999(kargil an eternal gift)

all the times your helping hands were cut, but again they grew up!!!!

sorry to say but after the mumbai attack, pakistani fakism is all shown to the world..
so cheers!!!!
we will cool down all tensions by all means we have..
and we are not weak....just after the elections we will help you too...

so best of luck and be ready to get our help...

Are mail2sc bhai kyon akahara bana rahe ho is jageh ko yaar. He is just another next door guy yaar...

Take it easy.

ok,,,

but truth prevails....

Satyameva Jayte!!!

truth prevails!!!


by all, by any, by every means.....

ok,,,

but truth prevails....

Satyameva Jayte!!!

truth prevails!!!


by all, by any, by every means.....

Yeah. It is our duty to keep respect for our neighbours. Actually, its not the people there who have taken all this so seriously.
So, we really shouldn't be making duels with each other on that.

Shaant gada dhari Bheem shaant!

Originally Posted by Admin

WoW,
Ive been wagah border twice and it would be such an experience if we were allowed to just drive through to the other side... The only two reasons I didnt visit Pakistan yet is that we are not allowed to take our cars through the border and second once I get an arrival stamp of Pakistan in my passport my security check time at al airports will double... they grill people with Pakistan visits too much so I thought its just not worth the hassel
But I would sure like to visit Lahore one day and have some good food there

yes

i heard they make good tandoori there.....__

:lol: adminji

I do not subscribe to the view that every Pakistani hates India - so much can be achieved by bilateral cooperation.

if they dont hate us, why Pakistan???

have you ever heard of a state against a specific religion???

please reply sensibly and dont please be a dumb sickular please....

just reply me..i am not wrong.

i am not against Islam...

infact there are many things in Islam which must be praised...


its the quality of some people who actually represent the Islam, in today's world...
and my lovely muslim brothers keep faith in those mindless goats....who are selfish...

i am not against Islam...

infact there are many things in Islam which must be praised...


its the quality of some people who actually represent the Islam, in today's world...
and my lovely muslim brothers keep faith in those mindless goats....who are selfish...

//You are in breach of forum regulations. You are using insulting language. - just4kix.

I said "Not all". There are quite a few who hate India just as we have quite a few who hate "Pakistan". Unfortunately, the good and sensible people are in minority.

mail2sc mate i was reading your posts from last few minutes seems like your heart is filled with a great love towards country and nation
is it like that

i think we should not post on such sensitive issues....

we lost 200 people in mumbai...

in India, public blood is burning with the feeling of anticipation...

Originally Posted by mail2sc

i think we should not post on such sensitive issues....

we lost 200 people in mumbai...

in India, public blood is burning with the feeling of anticipation...

mail2sc mate i asked you something

yes i am a patriot...

but i know i am very radical when comes to religion....

i wanted to say what just4kix said,ppll like me want secular Pakistan

mail2sc ji have you ever spoken to a Pakistani in person? have you been there? what do you know about Pakistan...

I am not saying that you are wrong or right but you are not speaking your own words... Youve been doctored to speak the way you are speaking... these are not your own views... Try closing your eyes for 5 mins and think about it... who has put that into your head?

Those people who try to mix relegion with politics like these taliban people do are a threat to the civil soiciety and should be dealt with asap.. its all breeding in Pakistan and Pakistan is in a catch 22 situation, they cant do anything but watch these guys take over their country and they are the ones who are and will suffer... so they are basically in self destruct mode and pulling themselves away from developement and peace.

Originally Posted by Admin

mail2sc ji have you ever spoken to a Pakistani in person? have you been there? what do you know about Pakistan...

I am not saying that you are wrong or right but you are not speaking your own words... Youve been doctored to speak the way you are speaking... these are not your own views... Try closing your eyes for 5 mins and think about it... who has put that into your head?

Those people who try to mix relegion with politics like these taliban people do are a threat to the civil soiciety and should be dealt with asap.. its all breeding in Pakistan and Pakistan is in a catch 22 situation, they cant do anything but watch these guys take over their country and they are the ones who are and will suffer... so they are basically in self destruct mode and pulling themselves away from developement and peace.

i see and i say,


but in future i will like to mind my words...sometimes truth is very bitter..

And I echo Admin's thoughts. Yes. There are bad people on both side - probably more bad people on one side that the other side. But that is not the point.

These bad people have only one aim - to seek and destroy.

Please read Mahabharat before preaching war, violence, hatred, enemity, etc. This great epic contains every facet of human life - Maharashi Vyas was given the boon - whatever is contained in this poem (as Vyas called his work), will also be written and mentioned somewhere else. But what is not contained in this work will not be found anywhere else.

Remember that great war of Kuruskshetra brought a lot of anguish and misery to both sides. In the long term, in a war, there are no winners. Avoiding a war does not mean that the person is a coward.

but if you have read Mahabharat
you must also know that Lord Krishna said that when it comes for no reason( war) we have all rights of not just defending ourselves but also destroy the roots of the enemy....

i am not for war..
but i cant forget constant bomb blasts....

The world is like a looking glass;if I smile, it smiles,if I frown,it frowns back.If I look at it through a red glass all seems to red and rossy;if through a blue all blue;if through a smoked one, all dull and dingy.So I always try then to look at the bright side of things.There are some person whose smile,whose voice,whose very presence seems like ray of sunshine that brightens the whole room.Greet everybody with bright smile kind words and pleasant welcome.It is not enough to love those who are near and dear to us.We must show that we do that.While enjoying the blessings of life,we can't expect to have no sorrows or anxieties.Life is indeed a tragedy at times, and comedy very often,but as a rule,it is what we choose to make it.
I hope i can explain my view.Just I try to say we are not horrified,but we know the value of life may be that's why we are showing the tolerance. How can we do the same thing what they did with us ?(To take some innocent people life) after all we are little different from our neighbour and we give the most priority to the humanity.If world will end one day by nuclear war at least that nobody will blame us.We are always for committed to protect the civilization.

Yes. Lord Krishna said that war is inevitable when all avenues end. And believe me that this will happen between India and Pakistan if things do not improve. India is not afraid of nuclear retalliation but we have to explore all peaceful avenues before drastic steps are taken.

This thread is going into a flame war and hence closing it.

Mail2sc ji this is an era of economic power... not jiski lathi uski bhains... times have changed my friend and who ever has the money has the last laugh.

Its all about money and thats the reason why states has been playing big boss for the last few dacades.

War is no solution... India is taking the right path to get certain elements within Pakistan behind the bars and also bringing them to light infront of international community.

India is getting rich by the day and soon will have enough say in the international community to get Pakistan to act against anti India elements within its boundaries..