Thread: AASU flays Centre’s stand on Stilwell Road

amal did u bother reading my post? as i said to feel something u need to face it. getting all the basic and luxurious amenities of life u wont understand. today just a news clip is shown but we have not started blaming now. its going on since independence. read any north east journal or newspaper and u will know. commenting on something not facing the situation is easy.

We agree to disagree...I won't say anything more on this.

The discrimination exists everywhere.
For a North Indian, everyone from south of the Vindhyachal is a “madrasi”. No point telling them that the South India consists of multiple States, cultures and languages. For them the words “bihari”, “gujju” or “bangali” are equally derogatory slangs.

For most of the South Indians, people from North are all “punjabi”.

The Bengalis are at even more unenviable position. They are treated as South Indians in North and North Indians in South. The also bear the most brunt of hatred in the NE.

The Bengalis themselves also call South Indians as “madrasi”, and North Indians as either “mero” (from Marwari) or “khotta” (origin unknown).

But that does not force all these people to take up arms demanding a separate country.

The so called “India Govt” spends tens of thousands on Crores in the NE. (in fact more than all other parts of the Country in percentage terms to land Area). To take an example of foodgrains, the “India Govt” pays Rs.16000 per MT for purchase of Rice in other parts of India, another Rs.2500 per MT in transporting them by Rail to NE, and also gives a further Rs.2500 per MT as local Hill Transport Subsidy to local State Govt. (i.e. a total of Rs.21000 per MT) to ensure that such rice is provided through PDS to the people of NE at Rs.8000 per MT.

The main reason that the funds spent for NE by the “India Govt” does not reach the common people of NE is because 95% of such funds are siphoned off by the State Govt. and State bureaucracy. (as against the normal figure of 40% in case of other parts of India). Now who constitutes the State Govt. and State Machinery? The local “sons and daughters of the soil” only. So the main reason for the backwardness of NE is the unending greed the people of NE who reach positions of power.

Since Pri is from NE I am sure she must be aware of the Mizo Movement and Pu Laldenga. I personally know one of the top lieutenants of Laldenga who surrendered and was given amnesty by Mrs. Indira Gandhi, the then PM. Today, 50 years after the movement started, at the age of 69, his biggest regret is that they failed to identify their enemy when they started the movement. According to him, their biggest enemy is from within, their own people who are busy filling their own pockets after reaching positions of power, forgetting their brethren.

One of the major reason for the lack of major infrastructure in NE is the insistence of the local political bosses and war-lords that only local people must be employed which forces the experts from other parts of the country to stay away while at the same time there is not enough engineers or other experts from NE who are willing to stay back and work in NE. So such projects remain still-born.

As regards the sexual abuse issue, while in all other parts of the country, the age of consent for woman is 16, in case of Manipur, due to the pressure of local political bosses, it is 14. why, only someone from NE can say.

Sorry, if I have touched a few raw nerves and for the longish post.

Good post PB...what you said is the absolute truth.

Don't blame Delhi for all your woes.

No point arguing with people who dont see what they might lose if north east gos to myanmar or china :-). infact seeing how biased and selfish people can get even i should consider myself not to be an indian. i am proud i am from north east wont ever hide my roots might be i married a bengali but that no ways makes me a bengali. seems the day is not far when like all other state even arunachalis wont ask to get separated from india or here they might ask to be a part of china. china already doesnt ask for visa from arunachalis.

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

No point arguing with people who dont see what they might lose if north east gos to myanmar or china :-).

care to elaborate on the expected loss

i married a bengali but that no ways makes me a bengali.

wonder what your husband's and his family's reaction to that would be

infact seeing how biased and selfish people can get even i should consider myself not to be an indian. i am proud i am from north east wont ever hide my roots might be. seems the day is not far when like all other state even arunachalis wont ask to get separated from india or here they might ask to be a part of china. china already doesnt ask for visa from arunachalis.

exactly the attitude that creates discontent. your roots are Indian, Arunachali and Tibetan (if I remember correctly). and nothing can change that. as regards the issue of joining with china, why don't you ask the Tibetans about that.

I went to NE with a open mind. My views have been formed after closely working with local Govt. and State machinery of NE for several years and also after coming in touch with old movement leaders like the one whose views I have quoted, which you have cared not to comment upon.

However, this would be my last post in this thread as there is no point is trying to show the truth to people who have already formed their own versions of virtual reality and is not willing to accept anything else.

Well my husband has got no problems still i go with my maiden name havent bothered changing it on papers though i used it on my online accounts.

virtual reality has nothing to do with the hardship out there. showing us go north east by opening the stilwell road if Central govt thinks they have done enough they should rethink about it.

and the bureaucrats that we are talking about most of them are from other parts of india. north eastern govt offices and schools swarm with employees who are not north eastern. all central govt jobs requirements in NE are filled by outsiders i remember that created a big issue in 2003.

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

No point arguing with people who dont see what they might lose if north east gos to myanmar or china :-)..

I already agree with that the development of NE has not happen sufficiently but if NE state join with Myanmar or China what the guarantee that the problem will be solved ? What can give Myanmar ? and next thing China is huge country where also few NE state may not get much priority.China is not asking visa because they officially believe Arunachal is the part of China.This is also the political strategy.

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

and the bureaucrats that we are talking about most of them are from other parts of india. north eastern govt offices and schools swarm with employees who are not north eastern. all central govt jobs requirements in NE are filled by outsiders i remember that created a big issue in 2003.

Isn't this true for the entire country?

Originally Posted by rupu1983

I already agree with that the development of NE has not happen sufficiently but if NE state join with Myanmar or China what the guarantee that the problem will be solved ? What can give Myanmar ? and next thing China is huge country where also few NE state may not get much priority.China is not asking visa because they officially believe Arunachal is the part of China.This is also the political strategy.

What are u sugegsting rupak? is it like being a neglected part in india no doubt even china or myanmar will also neglect nothing great about north easts or something like that.

Once north east is captured china will get access to the large amount of natural resources unexplored by Indian central govt while many outside researchers have researched on those fields and reported to govt of india. they will utilize the hydro power which indian govt dont care about. and indeed capturing the himalayas it wont be hard for them to enlarge their terrain and move to other parts of india if my answer is satisfactoruy enough for PB's first quesntion.

Originally Posted by 18lama

Isn't this true for the entire country?

tell me how many non gujratis get job thru gujrat state civil service?

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

What are u sugegsting rupak?

I think time has come to protest more in strong voice, whatever the negligence they have faced.Just remember if no body wants(specially Govt.) to give the human's primal right then needs revolution this is the only way human can give the answer against all discrimination.I know that few of Indian people(not all) also not give much importance to the NE states whatever be, united revolution of all their demand can solve this problem.History is the witness of that.
Finally tell me India is my mother if we have been neglected by govt. or anything then shall we think to join other country ?? never we will protest for our right
how can we want separation of the country for only few people ?

India is your mother land, my mother land and our mother land if anything is good we will all enjoy if anything is bad then we have to do something to bring the good no any escape route is present as I feel

Theory is always far far better than practice. And the word Few people was an understatement :-). When things go wrong at ur home only ur family can feel it rest wont care thats the same way we are treated.

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

Theory is always far far better than practice. And the word Few people was an understatement :-). When things go wrong at ur home only ur family can feel it rest wont care thats the same way we are treated.

100% agree with you but what can we do say me ?
Practical and theory has big gap due to human habit,nature and emotion otherwise theory can only thing that's show the right way.
Yes if it happen with me i don't know as human which way I will choice at that moment due to my emotion.Still I will say i should choice the right way which can only give any positive solution.
I know you have lots of unforgettable experience of discrimination in your short life and that thing has created one impact in your mind.It is natural.
but really do you find any solution ?

Originally Posted by Pri_dm

tell me how many non gujratis get job thru gujrat state civil service?

Not too many Gujaratis go for government jobs...and That's a very good thing.

BTW I am not at all disturbed by how many non-gujaratis get jobs in the government. Let them..