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    Human have been cheated and fooled by some other human who are normally called politicians, in that, the politicians or heads of the states made men fight for small pieces of land so as to keep them subjugated.
    Vastness of internet one day will bring human to real justice which is equal distribution of world resources to all human kind rather than to keep these to few top ones, ie the kings.

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    Yes fair point .....Politicians are not doing their job ...

    But will internet bring people together ??

    I am not so sure .......Already this outside war is moving towards the internet

    For ex :Israeli Hackers regularly bring down palestinian news sites...and Palestinian hackers( i never knew they had hackers until i saw the news !) do the same to Israeli news sites .....

    This forum itself was hacked by somebody once, whos proxy was traced back to China by our Admin .....

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    Who created Geographic Boundries
    I think the same guy who made political map of india :001_huh:

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    and why.. coz my class teacher asked him to do so :14:
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    Its a dog eat dog world

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothvibes View Post


    I think the same guy who made political map of india :001_huh:


    and why.. coz my class teacher asked him to do so :14:
    Classic ...i love u man

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    Pleasure... now if you want you can add repo for cracking joke on such a unique question...

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    Aye .....

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    Smoothvibes you better ask admin to make considerations for you.....We cannot give repo to the same person again and again...But you deserve a lot of repo dude..

    Who created these political boundries??I think it dates back to the age of Monarchy,The kings making kingdoms and fighting for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusam View Post
    Smoothvibes you better ask admin to make considerations for you.....We cannot give repo to the same person again and again...But you deserve a lot of repo dude..

    Who created these political boundries??I think it dates back to the age of Monarchy,The kings making kingdoms and fighting for them.
    Yes, thats the point, Human have been fooled years and years by some of their mates.
    Think of millions of people each side withe weapons and all that, ready to mass kill each other, rather eager to kill opponents, and you know whats the reason--
    - A small peace of land -- a women of/for the king --- a snow peak with no life - some business concerns of King,
    It so amazing how easily men get led to such wars and how easily they get behind the politicians to kill / defeat other human and surprisingly it applies to both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusam View Post
    Smoothvibes you better ask admin to make considerations for you.....We cannot give repo to the same person again and again...But you deserve a lot of repo dude..
    Thanks mate

    Lets wait for admin to read this and comment

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    Actually it dates back even further than the kings when men were mere apes ....its Animal instincts to fight for territory ...and it refuses to leave us to this day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Actually it dates back even further than the kings when men were mere apes ....its Animal instincts to fight for territory ...and it refuses to leave us to this day

    In Politics, Book One, Aristotle said:

    "Hence it is evident that the state is a creation of nature and that man by nature is a political animal."

    The adjective that Aristotle used to describe man in Greek is 'politikos' which is where we get the English word political. For this reason, 'politikos' is often translated as political, however the actual Greek meaning was a little deeper. 'Politikos' came from the Greek word 'polis' meaning city-state. To be 'politikos' was to be a member of the 'polis' or a citizen. Being a citizen, while certainly implying participation in various political responsibilities, was more about being a part of society; contributing to the good of the whole. In this way, the meaning of 'politikos' more resembles the English word social than political.


    John Locke also stated that "man is by nature a social animal" in regards to human nature.

    source link: http://wiki.answers.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Actually it dates back even further than the kings when men were mere apes ....its Animal instincts to fight for territory ...and it refuses to leave us to this day
    Yes sounds reasonably balanced judgement

    Quote Originally Posted by vishnus89 View Post
    In Politics, Book One, Aristotle said:

    "Hence it is evident that the state is a creation of nature and that man by nature is a political animal."

    The adjective that Aristotle used to describe man in Greek is 'politikos' which is where we get the English word political. For this reason, 'politikos' is often translated as political, however the actual Greek meaning was a little deeper. 'Politikos' came from the Greek word 'polis' meaning city-state. To be 'politikos' was to be a member of the 'polis' or a citizen. Being a citizen, while certainly implying participation in various political responsibilities, was more about being a part of society; contributing to the good of the whole. In this way, the meaning of 'politikos' more resembles the English word social than political.


    John Locke also stated that "man is by nature a social animal" in regards to human nature.

    source link: http://wiki.answers.com
    I feel there would be / should be / could be a time when man would need from social to somewhat scientific animal. Thats the time when it starts thinking based on logic than animal instincts. Equality and justice for all, resources distribution based on a scientific mechanism rather than will of politicians and forget fighting for land and women, combine for good of his kind.
    I think thats going to be time when human will move forward tremendously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwaraitch View Post
    Y

    I feel there would be / should be / could be a time when man would need from social to somewhat scientific animal. Thats the time when it starts thinking based on logic than animal instincts. Equality and justice for all, resources distribution based on a scientific mechanism rather than will of politicians and forget fighting for land and women, combine for good of his kind.
    I think thats going to be time when human will move forward tremendously.
    That will happen if politicians get extinct like Dinosaurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Yes fair point .....Politicians are not doing their job ...

    But will internet bring people together ??

    I am not so sure .......Already this outside war is moving towards the internet

    For ex :Israeli Hackers regularly bring down palestinian news sites...and Palestinian hackers( i never knew they had hackers until i saw the news !) do the same to Israeli news sites .....

    This forum itself was hacked by somebody once, whos proxy was traced back to China by our Admin .....
    May be not, not in near future and not in present form, I think it does have potential to break certain barriers.

    War of good and evil though is a bit different shade of the human exploitation by other human beings.

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    So it begs the question ....

    When will it end ?
    and more importantly
    what will end this ?

    First it was land/food/women

    Next kingdom

    Next it was country

    Now it is religion ....

    Humans keep finding some excuse to fight ....

    Do they really want peace ?

    Monarchy (There are very few kings now)wasnt successful

    Communism (communist Russia collapsed) wasnt successful

    Democracy was only partially successful ...

    so i guess we have to wait for something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishnus89 View Post
    That will happen if politicians get extinct like Dinosaurs.
    May be it sounds very strange, yet I earnestly believe it will happen. Only because its very logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    So it begs the question ....

    When will it end ?
    and more importantly
    what will end this ?

    First it was land/food/women

    Next kingdom

    Next it was country

    Now it is religion ....

    Humans keep finding some excuse to fight ....

    Do they really want peace ?
    Or a piece of something
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    We are not seeing a end / solution because of fixed thinking instilled over and over in our minds. If we can come out of it, the solutions will start appearing pretty simple. In fact these are simple and that's where ultimately human have to reach.
    Shadow has indicated some reasons land/food/women, kingdom, country, religion ....
    Reduce importance of these --- the answers will appear. None of these resolved human issue, SO WHAT NEXT...
    Think,, yo will start getting to it. Its there and it will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwaraitch View Post
    We are not seeing and end / solution because of fixed thinking instilled over and over in our minds. If we can come out of it, the solutions will start appearing pretty simple. In fact these are simple and thats where ultimately human have to reach.
    What are your suggestions for that mwaraitch ?

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    Well its always easier to reach solution when there is a leader ... an honest leader who is loved by all his people ...Every country has had one at some point of time ... But right now we r in need of more than one ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Well its always easier to reach solution when there is a leader ... an honest leader who is loved by all his people ...Every country has had one at some point of time ... But right now we r in need of more than one ....
    Every one can say, 'If I became the leader I will make everyone happy. But there will be very little you can do when you become one.

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    I see this argument as baseless with no materil atall... You are dreaming about socialism... its passe` Its not a sustainable system.

    Power strugle is what makes life full of romance and thrill and life desirable to enjoy what you have achieved and the desire to achieve more (achieve as in power)

    Its all about power.... give me one example where something was not motivated by desire for power or desire for more power or you can say acts done to deteriorate some one elses power to become more powerfull relatively.
    This is evident in daily life aswel... offices, schools, villages you name it and I can put this power equation in it and it will be a perfect fit..

    Nature lets the power full live and kills the weak and ill... You can call it a fight to survive or survival of the fittest theory also kick in very well.

    I am not sure if you would get my frequency here but for me its all crystal clear... A to B in the shortest period of time and anything in between is runover with full force.

    Moral of the story POWER
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I see this argument as baseless with no materil atall... You are dreaming about socialism... its passe` Its not a sustainable system.

    Power strugle is what makes life full of romance and thrill and life desirable to enjoy what you have achieved and the desire to achieve more (achieve as in power)

    Its all about power.... give me one example where something was not motivated by desire for power or desire for more power or you can say acts done to deteriorate some one elses power to become more powerfull relatively.
    This is evident in daily life aswel... offices, schools, villages you name it and I can put this power equation in it and it will be a perfect fit..

    Nature lets the power full live and kills the weak and ill... You can call it a fight to survive or survival of the fittest theory also kick in very well.

    I am not sure if you would get my frequency here but for me its all crystal clear... A to B in the shortes period of time and anything in between is runover with full force.

    Moral of the story POWER
    Yeah i am getting your drift ... Survival of the fittest ?

    But you should also remember that ... Human mind is going thru huge evolution ... Historians and other guys have always been fascinated by the evolution oh Humanity and they have found the following

    -->The Human brain is undergoing huge devolopment ... we can safely claim that , we r smarter than our ancestors

    --> at the same time we r growing physically weaker ...

    -->Maybe its because of our lifestyle and the explosion of Knowledge and education which causes this .....

    But anyways when you take into the fact that we fight lesser wars than our forefathers (At the time of monarchy ,wars were an everyday affair, a post in the army was considered as a high post)... Because we have news reporting just about everything ....we think that we fight more than our ancestors which is totally not true ....
    Due you really think that before the coming of British and Mughals Indian subcontinent was a peaceful country ? ... No India was fractured into many smaller states constantly at war with each other ..... This caused large scale displacement and refugees even before the new invaders came into the Indian Subcontinent

    Ps: Indian sub continent comprises of India , Pak , nepal ,Burma , sri Lanka etc this is the term used by historians..

    Moral : It was Power ... But now its changing ...

    Ex: Women's group

    But yes Admin as of now Capitalism drives the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishnus89 View Post
    What are your suggestions for that mwaraitch ?
    Yes, its is sort of confused because of our limitations at this point of time.

    I partially suggested that Shadow has indicated some reasons ie land/food/women, kingdom, country, religion and some sort of political systems like socialism, democracy etc....
    Reduce importance of these --- the answers will appear. None of these resolved human issue, SO WHAT NEXT...

    * When there is abundance of food,
    * When men have more important things to do than fighting for women.
    * When there are no kings.

    - A system based on scientific mechanism of determining work hour cost.
    - A system having scientific mechanism of distribution of resources as per work hour effort, needs and availability.

    There are few sample already available in this world where the above things exist or closer to it and we all understand they are living better life. A global mechanism for the same will prevail in coming years when human will learn to get of their issues and focus on their strengths, find neater way of reproduction, over come time bondage and make use of resources of universe.
    No kidding really.

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    We will only know the joy of having something when we lose it. Is that where this is going ?
    mwaraitch I didn't get everything you said. But it sounds like turning every humans in to robots or something. :34:

    Where is the fun in living a programed life.

    Pardon me if I am wrong.
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    When I say power or fight ... please do not associate it with wars or physical fights...

    When I say fight...

    Fight on the streets between females... They dress smarter... they do excercises to look better and try and get the best male around... same with males aswell...

    Fight in schools.. getting more marks in studies then others is also a fight... fight for money ... fight for business.

    You can call it competetion aswell... I am not very good with words sorry I dont know how to put my thoughts into words...

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    Isn't competition on a small scale a good thing ?
    The thought of getting more marks than your companion
    will make us work harder. The thought of impressing
    somebody will improve our self. Everyone needs a strong
    aim/goal to become successful. Right ?

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    Yes its all good... Thats what I am trying to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishnus89 View Post
    Isn't competition on a small scale a good thing ?
    The thought of getting more marks than your companion
    will make us work harder. The thought of impressing
    somebody will improve our self. Everyone needs a strong
    aim/goal to become successful. Right ?
    The thought of getting more marks than ur rival will also kinda make u sadistic ??....I mean u ll feel jealous if your rival scores well ?....

    But yeah competition drives innovations and discoveries

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    The thought of getting more marks than ur rival will also kinda make u sadistic ??....I mean u ll feel jealous if your rival scores well ?....
    Yes, that's true.
    BTW. I think we are turning away from the subject here. Don't you ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Yes its all good... Thats what I am trying to say

    Sorry Admin, misunderstood your post.
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    A little competiton does no harm and I agree, does lead to the discovery of wonderful things. I only get concerned when people take it too far, then we end up with negative emotions like jelousy and some people, regardless of their status in society, feel that they can take what is not theirs.

    Do you understand that?

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    Yup .... Friendly competition ... But a balance is difficult to achieve

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    Yes you are right it is the selfish politicians who are to be blamed for this catastrophe.But it is also human natural instinct to grab the nature for his own reason.

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    flame wars anyone

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    These will vanish - As none of these is logical

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    I like your thoughts. Its similar to be Global village Concept.

    Humanity have no boundaries.

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