Thread: LIVE OS review

Originally Posted by newprouser

^^ and wat is saurav_k doing all this while ?

fftopic: :
And what did that mean? :w00t:

Ohhh.................Detective?

Originally Posted by dhaneshv

@shady911

The purpose of this thread was not to copy-paste material from other sites and ask for repo for what you call "a review". Just became curious when you posted this second big review and found that both of your review have been exact copy-paste. And, I can give proper evidence to prove myself.

I was about to say the same thing.

I intended to use this thread for posting reviews, that means use a live OS, then write about how you feel during the use, the drawbacks, the positive points etc.

Try to make it compact and point to point, so that anybody who reads it ,won't have to read a book to find a single phrase.

Originally Posted by K_A_CS

Hello,

Please tell what is Live OS? I mean which type of operating systems are said to be "live".

Thanks

You can refer to Wikipedia for details about it: Live CD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope)

System used:

HP Notebook
AMD Turion-X2 64 2.10GHz
4GB DDR2 800 MHz
ATI Radeon 512 dedicated
SATA HDD
ITI DNA-A211-I ADSL Modem

A small review

Pros:

• Simple and Clean look
• Easy to use
• Can easily install it from Live CD to HDD.

Cons:

• Took more boot time (compared to knoppix)
• Drivers for Graphics card and Wi-Fi where not available have to download it.
• Found Net speed to be slow (compared to Knoppix)

One small advice . Please post your images in JPG or GIF formats. PNG images are larger, thus ,take longer to load on a slow connection.

"Fedora-11-live" review coming soon.

OS tested-->

• Fedora 11 KDE-LIVE
• Fedora 11-DVD-X86-64 installer
  
  

Hardware used-->



PC

• Processor: AMD 64 Atlon-2800+
• RAM: 2.5GB DDR400
• Graphics: nvidia 7600GS-512MB
• TV tuner: Pinnacle media center
• HDD: HITYACHI and Seagate-SATA and Samsung-IDE
• ODD: HITACHI DVD/RW-SONY DVD/CD
• UPS: APC Back UPS-ES 500
• MODEM: C2110 SIEMENS (ISP-BSNL)

LAPTOP

• Processor: Intel Dual Core 2GHz
• RAM: 2GB DDR2
• Graphics: onboard-intel-64MB
• HDD: SATA
• ODD: DVD/RW
• MODEM: C2110

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Fedora release 11, though late but came out a few very good changes. I was about to post review for Fedora 11 kde LIVE, but then I thought of downloading the DVD also and tried it and found out some big differences.
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Advantages common to both distros:

• Both the GUIs are almost 99% same
• Both share the same network functionalities and flexibility as usual
• Unmounted file systems can be mounted right from the explorer window with full RW access (for NTFS partitions also) with only the root password which lasts for one session.
• Both support virtualization
• Easily configurable system
• Boot time is comparatively low
• As usual this Fedora system is also a heaven for developers
• My modem was configured in 4 clicks
• TV worked better than windows as usual

Flaws common to both distros:

• Although the desktop effects worked good on the laptop without(or with limited graphics functionality) graphics card, the effects were terrible on my desktop with a fairly good graphics card
• It is known that Fedora does not support multimedia types like AVI, mp3 etc, and it’s no different this time. You have to install codecs manually.
  

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Fedora 11 LIVE KDE:
Advantages:

• Although on a CD, it comes with full set of tools anybody would ever need
• Gives you freedom of creating a LIVE USB OS out of the LIVE CD
• Comes with more number of desktop themes than the DVD distro
• Files system are mounted with full RWX access by default
• Works better than the DVD OS , the difference can be felt during normal web browsing, file access, and also the LIVE OS comes with more GUI customizable options .

Flaws:

• The LIVE OS gives you the ease of installing the OS permanently right from your live desktop, but it fails at around half way of installation when done from a USB booted LIVE OS. except one->discussed in flaws section below), There is another major drawback in installation of Fedora LIVE—while doing manual partitioning, the installer would not continue until you create an ext4 partition for root and an ext3 partition for /boot, you must provide two partitions.
• Sometimes while configuring the modem the x server crashes and screen just goes blank , the session ends without a clue and goes to the logon screen or to the console window(this is less frequent in DVD installed OS)

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Fedora 11 DVD=X86-64( installed system ):
Advantages:

• The installation and partitioning worked very well without any problem (, although I prefer manual partitioning, I just selected “Replace the old LINUX installation” and everything was done automatically with an option of reviewing the partition table after auto allocation of file systems.
• This time Fedora uses ext4 file system for OS installation
• The OS updates itself automatically without any interference.

Flaws:

• The desktop comes with only one theme, fewer number of splash screens while the LIVE version comes with loads of them (strange). While trying to get new themes also the search tool never connects or draws anything from internet for updating.
  
• The desktop is set to a lower level of resolution sometimes than the maximum supported(on my desktop), even if you change the resolution, it will revert back to the original resolution after reboot.(only happened for my desktop- not the laptop)
• I was not able to set the date and time to my system time after a no of tries , the time zones do not show any Indian place (this was a very short observation- you may find one for India-tell me), and I could not set the OS time to my system time either.
• Although the automatic update works flawless but I like the manual update and thats what did not work here. Once you try to update manually, a search begins and never ends. i don't know whether the search is for finding the installed packages or for any task to respond or something else.(I need help here.)
• The automatic update settings should be set manually to notify or the OS will download and install updates without your knowledge, which may cost users like me who use limited download connections like HOME 500.(This is not a flaw, this is just an observation)

The never ending search while trying manual install or update.
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The poor scratchy desktop effects.
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I don't think I have left anything major, but any help in finding them will be appreciated.


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Bottom line:
Fedora 3 was my first LINUX.
I was using Mandriva before Fedara-11, and I am going right back to Mandriva.
Lets see what comes next.
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This review was solely system specific and your opinion may vary,

waiting for comments.

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Next review- elive

Originally Posted by K_A_CS

Hello,

Please tell what is Live OS? I mean which type of operating systems are said to be "live".

Thanks


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In short Live operating system is one which you can boot and run right from any portable media ( CD, DVD, Memory card, thumbdrive etc) without installing anything on to the hard drive.

Originally Posted by puchu

Next review- elive

I just tested elive 1.9.32-(unstable) version and found out too many bugs, so I would skip this one and wait for the stable version to be released. In the mean time suggest some more live OS for review.

Great review puchu!! :14: :14:

That was a great work. :thumbup1:

I have not tried out the release yet and don't think that I will be able to do that soon.
Anyway, let's wait and see.

P.S: Rep++++++

I was trying to boot "Mandriva One 2009"(not 2009.1) from USB ,
I have already tried using unetbootin, have tried the syslinux method too, but to no avail.
This copy of LINUX is booting fine from CD.

And another LINUX I found out the other day- "Sabayon".
I found it interesting .It is available in both KDE and Genome flavors.
To boot it from pendrive ,use unetbootin, but to boot it from an external hard disk , you may have to manually make it bootable, using syslinux method, because unetbootin sometimes fails to make it bootable. I will try to post the details ASAP.
I do not have my net connection yet. As soon as I get it I will post a review.
I have to go now.................byeeeeeee

OS tested:-

• Sabayon 4.1-G
  

Hardware used:-

• ·AMD 64 2800+
• ·2.5GB DDR 400
• ·SATA HDDs
• ·Nvidia 7600GS-512 MB dedicated
• ·Pinnacle media center tuner

Introduction:

1. Gentoo based OS
2. Latest in the series is Sabayon 5.0
3. Available in 2 main flavors-KDE and Gnome
4. Full installer DVD versions also available but till version 4.0 R1
5. Last 3 versions are

• Sabayon LINUX -4.1
  
  • amd64_G.iso
  • amd64_K.iso
  • x86_G.iso
  • x86_K.iso
• Sabayon LINUX -4.2
  
  • amd64_G.iso
  • md64_K.iso
  • x86_G.iso
  • x86_K.iso
• Sabayon LINUX -5.0
  
  • amd64_G.iso
  • amd64_K.iso
  • amd64_K.iso.orig
  • x86_G.iso
  • x86_K.iso

Almost all the previous and current versions are available in the following mirror.
Index of /pub/sabayon/

Pros:

• Very good GUI and loads of configurable options
• The LIVE distro comes with installation support right from the LIVE desktop
• Compiz and emerald theme manager embedded
• Almost all the generic day to day used tools and softwares included
• A search tool is embedded named as “Gnome do” to find any application which can find almost all softwares and services while searching by name
• The system monitor embedded shows system data at a precision of as low as 500ms
• Good driver support for both most new nvidia and ATI cards. I used the twin view option in graphics card for monitor and TV, my TV was detected easily.
• LIVE OS of both KDE and Gnome flavors have independent 32 bit and 64 bit versions
• ·Sabayon 4.1 has a very limited capability CD/DVD burning software, where as 5.0 has fully fledged version of the same with almost all data and media capabilities.
• Wine embedded
• Regular updates available
• This OS is for users who want to have a good LINUX desktop with sparkling GUI for day to day use like surfing the net, watching videos, listening to music etc
• Very similar task manager like MS bases operating systems, but still very accessible and unique
• Almost all media codecs included

Modem configuration is too easy. All the Gnome distros have DSL modem driver and mobile BB support.(KDE versions lack here)
Cons:

• Resource hungry, you should have more than 1Gig of RAM for smooth operation, a graphics card is added advantage
• Lacks TV tuner software (but can be found in the FTP repository, never tried it)
• The system monitor in Sabayon 4.2 does not work.
• Sabayon 5.0 fails to detect sound card.
• Emerald becomes irresponsive sometimes(manageable)
• Not many tools included for development purpose
• CD/DVD tool in 4.1 is crappy
• Bootloader does not reflect the actual text included for any OS during bootloader installation.(Ex-for Xp if you enter X during bootloader installation , still it shows other OS on the boot screen)
• Strangely enough all the Gnome versions have DSL modem and mobile BB support but not the KDE versions, so I preferred the Gnome 4.1(only lacks CD/DVD burning and TV)

Misc:

• If you want to try the LIVE OS(almost any) from USB, then download unetbootin and the LIVE ISO image,
• open unetbootin, browse to the ISO file,
• select your drive letter of thumb drive (be careful here, you may end up making your native drive unbootable if you select wrong drive letter, unetbootin makes the selected drive bootable only to boot the LIVE OS)
• The above procedure does not work for external HDDs; there is another way for it.
• Press next, that’s all
• Now select your thumb drive as first boot device and boot from it
• For advanced users: you may like to edit the syslinux config file for more specific boot parameters like, booting music, autoload of gfx driver and compiz, verbose booting etc.

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Bottom line:

I liked the OS very much in spite of the flaws. The only thing I miss is the TV software. Going to download it and try now.

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This review was solely system specific and user specific, your opinion may vary,

waiting for comments.
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