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    Mozilla the ever so popular browser which is not as popular anymore will now be launching their own low cost smart phones in India in July this year. The cost of the mobiles is not to exceed Rs3000. These phones will be with a Firefox OS which is something new in India.
    Mozilla has previously launched their smartphones in Latin America and Europe and they have been a success.

    Launching mobile phones is not new and there are many people who have their own choice for a mobile phones, but when it comes to OS, I think that's where many people in India will have to think. We already had iOS, Android, then Windows and now Firefox. Although this is a good thing that the more choice there is in operating systems the better, but it all depend on actual product. Mozilla Firefox did start to get some problems, spell check for starters, we hope problems like these wont occur in the OS version.

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    More competetion the better. There is plenty of room to grow in India for another 20 companies.

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    the OS is still under development. not for normal end users
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    I hope the make a nice OS and give some competetion to MS.
    Can this be run alongside windows 8.1?

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    Its a good move by Firefox, but I don't think it would do as well. There is Windows and iOS which are from top companies but nothing beats Android.

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    Google has tweaked Linux pretty nice and created their Chrome. I tried someone's Chrome book and everything is so fast and responsive. Miles ahead of Windows but there are still a log of things that you cannot do on these OS. For a normal user like me there are no problems.

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    More competition is better, but with the biggies like Windows and Linux it will take time to get established. Has Firefox OS officially started yet?

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    For an embedded device like a phone, the os doesn't really matter as long as it does its job. What matters more is user interface, which unfortunately is sorely lacking in all the current operating systems imo. It takes 6 steps to do things that took just 1 or two on my old Treo 650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popcorn View Post
    Mozilla the ever so popular browser which is not as popular anymore will now be launching their own low cost smart phones in India in July this year. The cost of the mobiles is not to exceed Rs3000. These phones will be with a Firefox OS which is something new in India.
    rumors ? ... which phone they lunched in india yet ?

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    I dont think the phone has been annouched yet, but they have only set a price limit. It would be good if the brand is good something like Samsung.

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    there are multiple phones available in India with Firefox OS. Intex Cloud FX, Zen U105 Fire, Spice Fire One, Alcatel One Touch Fire C. All having similar specs. Priced at ₹ 1700- ₹ 2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    there are multiple phones available in India with Firefox OS. Intex Cloud FX, Zen U105 Fire, Spice Fire One, Alcatel One Touch Fire C. All having similar specs. Priced at ₹ 1700- ₹ 2000
    Links? I'd like to check them out.

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    So phones have been launched with Firefox OS, I thought this was still in process. How good are these phones or more like the OS?

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    I don't know how Firefox does look like live but it is very unknow OS. I saw some screenshots and I can say that UI is very bad. Icons are really small and bad. Apps UI not so good. I would never use Firefox OS.

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    It's really difficult to judge an OS in early stage, however, I feel it's really difficult for Firefox OS to compete with other giants. Android is at such a stage where it's really tough for its rival to overtake it. I have seen a budget Firefox OS phone and, to be honest, I didn't like it's UI at first sight. Let's see how it goes in the future.

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    six years back, people said the same thing about android. so who knows what the future holds
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    six years back, people said the same thing about android. so who knows what the future holds
    Wise words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    six years back, people said the same thing about android. so who knows what the future holds
    Absolutely right! That's why I said that it's really difficult to judge an OS in its early stage. Android, in its early stage, used to struggle and it lacked a lot of features but as the time passed, it improved more and more after releasing new versions and now, it's probably one of the best operating systems. If Firefox works hard with this OS, it's definitely going to be worth it.

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    It's definitely not the best. The user interface suck terribly--they should have learned from the treo 650--now that was a very good user interface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    six years back, people said the same thing about android. so who knows what the future holds
    That is true my friend. But, Firefox is really bad OS. UI looks ugly and everything is bad.
    Android was a good OS and that is why it is popular now.
    I hope they will update this OS to something better and bigger.

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    I've used android since Cupcake (ver 1.5). I can assure you, it also looked very ugly once.
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    As others have said, I think the more competition that there is out there, the better it is fircthe consumer, and while they might not all be up to a high standard right from the start, they will improve as time goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    I've used android since Cupcake (ver 1.5). I can assure you, it also looked very ugly once.
    But Firefox is ugly now too. Android Lollipop is very beautiful. Say it is ugly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihailo View Post
    But Firefox is ugly now too. Android Lollipop is very beautiful. Say it is ugly?
    Are we trying to win a beauty contest or make a good browser? It's opinions like this that help create 'pretty' applications that work like crap.

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    I think only time will tell how it all going to turn out. Firefox being one of the successful Internet explorers as of now, they are undoubtedly having some talents with them. As already mentioned by others, Android also had to go through a lot of hardships before it got established. Now it has become the most popular mobile OS in the world.

    I think Firefox becoming one of the most popular OS cannot be ruled out as history shows us that. But it is not easy as they have to face stiff competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamirD View Post
    Are we trying to win a beauty contest or make a good browser? It's opinions like this that help create 'pretty' applications that work like crap.
    We are talking about Firefox OS. Operating system. You should read the first post in this topic. I just wanted to tell him that Firefox OS is the same crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihailo View Post
    We are talking about Firefox OS. Operating system. You should read the first post in this topic. I just wanted to tell him that Firefox OS is the same crap.
    I know. How does 'prettiness' factor in for their operating system? Form over function thinking produces crap.

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    Well they also say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so with that in mind, people are going to have different opinions as to what makes a good looking browser.

    For me ease if use and the visual aspect go hand in hand, and you'll usually find the the OS or browser with the cleanest look, are the easiest to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwarbi View Post
    For me ease if use and the visual aspect go hand in hand, and you'll usually find the the OS or browser with the cleanest look, are the easiest to use.
    Google Chrome and Android I guess
    By this, I mean Chrome has the cleanest look and it is easy to use. Android too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihailo View Post
    But Firefox is ugly now too. Android Lollipop is very beautiful. Say it is ugly?
    thats like comparing the expertise of a 1 year old with that of a 10 year old child.

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    I personally find the windows phone OS to be the most good looking. but then everyone has their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    thats like comparing the expertise of a 1 year old with that of a 10 year old child.

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    I personally find the windows phone OS to be the most good looking. but then everyone has their choice.
    And I find Windows UI to be the ugliest. But then, it's just my choice.
    I think it's not justified to compare Firefox with Android or Windows either. Firefox OS is still in its development stage, so hoping it to compete with the above well established OS isn't good. Let the time pass and hope Firefox to work seriously in developing and customising this OS well. I think it's going to be good for the ones, who are just bored using Android or Windows. If you ask me, I won't migrate from Android to any other OS anytime soon.

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    For a new system, at a time when many competitors are already well advanced, it began with a stable base. Being based on the Linux kernel Android guarantees a constant evolution.The system meets the eye as planned: an easy to use, with decent performance, average battery life, and basic applications.

    The way they are distributed and control applications like me, and dynamic search engine is really useful (if adopted features such as Google Now, it could be very interesting). It also has extensive customization possibilities, just need to exploit them.

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    This is the heart of Firefox OS – where you search for apps. Except what you get aren’t really apps because Firefox OS is designed to move away from the app structure with which we’re familiar. Instead Firefox OS uses the HTML5 open Web standard, where apps as we know them don’t exist, and dynamic platform agnostic programs take their place. However, Mozilla also has an app store called the Firefox Marketplace, so the phone effectively has two app stores. Not only is this confusing to newcomers, but it’s also a knock against the supposed convenience of HTML5 apps

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtadoluisalex View Post
    This is the heart of Firefox OS – where you search for apps. Except what you get aren’t really apps because Firefox OS is designed to move away from the app structure with which we’re familiar. Instead Firefox OS uses the HTML5 open Web standard, where apps as we know them don’t exist, and dynamic platform agnostic programs take their place. However, Mozilla also has an app store called the Firefox Marketplace, so the phone effectively has two app stores. Not only is this confusing to newcomers, but it’s also a knock against the supposed convenience of HTML5 apps
    Interesting. If a method to deploy fully html5 compliant software on the fly is developed, it will either require constant monitoring (like an app store), or the OS will have to become hardened with a lot of security features to keep exploits from being developed.

    The current Windows method of software development and distribution has run into this problem and is why 'app stores' exist to begin with, starting with the iplatforms.

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    "Remember. It is a phone for developers. "It's what I was trying to force myself to think when I got my hands Geeksphone Keon, who is with his older brother (Peak) the first smartphone based on Firefox OS market. And like all first generation device, one must contemplate this development with great perspective.

    Because in these days when I could enjoy (and sometimes suffer) of Keon, not without mind that neither Firefox OS is a product ready for the end user, or the Keon is a smartphone for users like you or like me, at least if you live in countries like Spain where mobile telephony is highly developed. Comparisons are odious, and in this case, even more unjust still, because you have to see this version of Firefox OS Keon and of Geeksphone for what they are. A first step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtadoluisalex View Post
    "Remember. It is a phone for developers. "It's what I was trying to force myself to think when I got my hands Geeksphone Keon, who is with his older brother (Peak) the first smartphone based on Firefox OS market. And like all first generation device, one must contemplate this development with great perspective.

    Because in these days when I could enjoy (and sometimes suffer) of Keon, not without mind that neither Firefox OS is a product ready for the end user, or the Keon is a smartphone for users like you or like me, at least if you live in countries like Spain where mobile telephony is highly developed. Comparisons are odious, and in this case, even more unjust still, because you have to see this version of Firefox OS Keon and of Geeksphone for what they are. A first step.
    Yes, but they have stopped working on it now, due to low apps and I think support and funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtadoluisalex View Post
    "Remember. It is a phone for developers. "It's what I was trying to force myself to think when I got my hands Geeksphone Keon, who is with his older brother (Peak) the first smartphone based on Firefox OS market. And like all first generation device, one must contemplate this development with great perspective.

    Because in these days when I could enjoy (and sometimes suffer) of Keon, not without mind that neither Firefox OS is a product ready for the end user, or the Keon is a smartphone for users like you or like me, at least if you live in countries like Spain where mobile telephony is highly developed. Comparisons are odious, and in this case, even more unjust still, because you have to see this version of Firefox OS Keon and of Geeksphone for what they are. A first step.
    Interesting to know, but the fundamentals on the software market is still the same--wide open. Good and bad. Seems like closed markets are the 'in' thing right now, but being able to develop out of the box is what made Microsoft the dominant platform and that's something for companies to keep in mind as well.

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