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18lama

Wrong again...Brits and Gauls are able to build heavy swordsman and heavy chariots once the reforms get going.

Spanish can build heavy cavalry and Bull warriors post reforms...

ShAdOwCoN

wrong again

I personally encountered all these units before the Marian reforms

Look at Post No 7 here ...... Marian reforms were implemented on 223 BC for me

By 217 BC (6 years later) i had destroyed first the Spanish and then the Gaulish faction ........ which means i destroyed Spanish before the reforms


and i told u i have already encountered the Bull warriors , scutarii etc etc

Another thing is that all Post Marius infantry units are legionaries (roman) and imitation legionary for other faction ....... none of the barbarian heavy infantry fall under this category (legionary like)


If u r still are nt convinced then check this discussion


Marian Reform question... - Total War Center Forums

I win !

18lama

you win the debate...but I win the game!!!

First a city siege battle:

The city: Carthage
Faction: Scipii

They have placed all their units on or near the wall.

I have not brought any siege machines like ladders and such. I have 2 onagers with me.




First used the onagers to break the gates and after that try and break the walls on either sides of the gate house.



This tactic can destroy the walls and bury the troops standing nearby in the rubble.

My onagers eventually destroyed 2 units of legionary cohorts standing on the walls.



Bombard the left and the right side of the gate house to isolate the units protecting the gates. This way the AI can't quickly reinforce the under fire units. Which makes it easy for your attackers to find a way through.



Use Testudo when attacking enemy stationed near the gatehouse, this way your units become invulnerable to velite and archer fire.







Once you capture the gates you can send more attackers on to despatch the enemy who are holed up on the walls.

You can also place an archer unit of your own once you capture the gate house, they will use their new high position quite well to soften up the troops on the wall.

Or you can remove them the old fashioned way!!...contd....

18lama

After I captured Carthage the AI attacked me with its stack o' doom and an epic battle began.










The end result:





The last city I captured was west of Carthage:





****The end****

I will post more updates when I start the barbarian invasion campaign in a few days.

ShAdOwCoN

Not playing as any other faction ?

you can play the shorter version of the campaign as another faction .... u ll have to capture 15 provinces


Report

Captured most of Italy just one more Brutii town remaining ...... captured Sardinia .... was defeated when i tried taking over the Scipii capital in Sicily with a mini army .... did nt expect him to have so many Praetorian cohorts


both Brutii and scipii have spammed many Praetorian cohorts and Urban cohorts ...... i dont have a single such unit

18lama

It will be a tough long slog to capture their cities.

ShAdOwCoN

After a Brutal campaign against Brutii and scipii its over finally ! ...... i captured all the islands from scipii and managed to capture large chunks of Greece from the Brutii ....... letting Brutii grow was one of the major reasons for my late victory ...... i have no idea how they managed to spam so many elite units (including naval) especially ones which require 2 turns

i spent bulk of the time just readying for the battle by building stacks of elite units and shipping them to Greece and the other islands . Also ended up Bribing and assassinating some of the Brutii Generals .

Final battle :

Place : Bylazora (Brutii capital)

Type : Walled settlement . Heavily fortified walls with arrow towers that can shoot multiple arrows and pour boiling oil .

Troops
Enemy : 1/2 a stack of elite units - Praetorian , Urban cohorts and Velite Gladiators ..... 1 praetorian cavalry and an armored General cavalry lead by the faction leader .... No missile troops

Me : 2/3 stack with No general ....2 Legionary cavalry ..... 2 Onagers .... 2 Praetorian and the rest Legionary and first legionary cohorts

captured the walls without much problem ....... the rest were ganged up in the town center ..... lured out the faction leader and surrounded him with all my troops killing him ..... finally took the others in the town center by surrounding them

Divide and conquer !

Long campaign complete



Factions i destroyed :

Gaul , Spain, Dacia , senate , Scythia

PS : repped u

18lama

favour returned...now get Medieval TW2 and waste even more hours trying to conquer Europe once again....

ShAdOwCoN

Played the short campaign as the Gauls ..... finished it in a few hours ......

Goals : capture 15 provinces and eliminate the 2 factions (Senate and Julii)

took me 13 ingame years

Strategy : Build a large army ..... lay siege to the Julii capital ..... Senate army will come to its rescue .... dont attack , lift the siege and march to Rome , avoiding the senate army ... quickly lay siege and take over the ill defended Rome thus eliminating the senate without fighting its army !
After that just finish of Julii .... and then the Spanish .... thats it !

Special units :
Barbarian Warhounds (Heavy) - more efficient than Roman wardogs

Forester warband - Best pre-Legionary archers .....Uses bow as well as spear ... thus effective against cavalry too

Warband very effective against cavalry

Unit strength comparison

Town Watch<Warband<Hastati<Swordsmen<Principe<Chosen Swordsmen

When somebody builds an Imperial palace inside Italy the Marius Reforms will occur .... so chuck out the Romans from Italy as quickly as possible .... if thats done Reforms will never occur ... so no legionaries for any faction !

18lama

you have to get Medieval total war 2...it has so much more depth than RTW, absolutely the best strategy game after the Civilization games.

not true...in one of my other games...The Egyptians built the Pharaoh's palace in Alexandria and that triggered the reforms in 211BC. I was playing the julii with a new strategy and trying to delay the reforms for as late as possible...but this was un-expected.

ShAdOwCoN

yeah .... will do it after a break

Was just checking out Barbarian Invasion

You should really try the "Hunnic" faction .... just mess around .... Their dialogues (when selected and moved in the strategy map) are absolutely comical ..... i was rofl-ing half the time

Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighty General rofl .... give it a try

ShAdOwCoN

Greatest battle ever !

Settlement : Raveena . Northen Italy

Faction : Huns

General : Diggz

Enemy faction : Vandals

Result : very close defeat

ShAdOwCoN

18lama

must've been one hell of a fight!! How did you kill so many of their men? what were you defending with?