Thread: Rome Total War Help

Hi , I am currently replaying one of my fav games Rome Total war

Actually i have never finished this game even tho this is the third time i am playing this !

ok now i am trying to complete it and need some help


I have a few questions

1) How long does the Imperial campaign last ? ..... you have to conquer 50 provinces to win the campaign , but how long/many years do you have ?



Status Report

Faction : I am playing as the Julii which is a Roman faction (of Julius ceaser fame)

Allies : I have allied with Brutii (of Marcus Brutus fame) and Scipii who are the other Roman factions.... i have also allied with the Scythians

Empire : My empire currently has 10 provinces (270 BC -240 BC) .... I managed to capture 4 provinces from the Gauls 2 in Italy and 2 in France .... 1 from the Iberians (Spanish)

1. Currently i have launched a campaign into Iberia(Spain) , i hope to wipe out this faction completely

2. Also i stationed an army to defend my cities in France against repeated Gaulish attacks .... i sacked one of their towns completely and have destroyed most of their armies , but they still keep throwing everything they have at me ....

3. Preparing a relief column to assist my army in Spain .

My army is pretty crappy and consists of the following units

Infantry
Principes
principes.jpg
Missile Units
Velites
roman_velite_info.jpg
Archers
roman_archer_info.jpg
Cavalry
Equites
roman_equites_cavalry_info.jpg
Artillary
Ballistea
rep_ballista.jpg

and hey dont forget my question at the top !

You havn't gone through the Marian reforms yet. They will generally happen near 50-100BC. Once that, you will have a new and more powerful units (including legionaries and auxiliary archers)available.

The campaign will last till 14AD. You will have to eliminate rival Roman factions too. i.e. Brutii and Scipii and/or Julii. You will also have to capture Rome when the senate and other families decalre war on you! Ofcourse if you have around 5/6 full stacks you can pre-empt the civil war and capture Italy/scicily.

But remember to extreminate the population in huge cities otherwise you will be facing revolts throughout the empire.

Read this walkthru for all the other details: http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/dos...e/589390/37914

One more tip: Never ever trust any of your allies. They have a habit of back stabbing when you least expect it.

And if you think you can't go forward without allies; never ever share a border with an ally. Always keep a buffer in between.

Originally Posted by 18lama

You havn't gone through the Marian reforms yet. They will generally happen near 50-100BC. Once that, you will have a new and more powerful units (including legionaries and auxiliary archers)available.

Yeah i know ... but i was nt sure about the timing .... and its Auxillia Archers

The campaign will last till 14AD. You will have to eliminate rival Roman factions too. i.e. Brutii and Scipii and/or Julii.

Thanks 14Ad i have a lot of time ........ I cannot eliminate Julii ! I am a Julii

You will also have to capture Rome when the senate and other families decalre war on you! Ofcourse if you have around 5/6 full stacks you can pre-empt the civil war and capture Italy/scicily.

Yeah .... that ll happen when i have captured 40+ provinces and the senate thinks i am too powerful

But remember to extreminate the population in huge cities otherwise you will be facing revolts throughout the empire.

I do that all the time

[/U]One more tip: Never ever trust any of your allies. They have a habit of back stabbing when you least expect it.

And if you think you can't go forward without allies; never ever share a border with an ally. Always keep a buffer in between.

I generally sack a town and then destroy all its buildings and then leave that city ...... the enemy recapture it but they will be too busy trying to keep that town happy and will also loose money trying to rebuild all the buildings that i destroyed ... this generally weakens them

sack and burn ..... it works

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Yeah i know ... but i was nt sure about the timing .... and its Auxillia Archers


Thanks 14Ad i have a lot of time ........ I cannot eliminate Julii ! I am a Julii

I said and/or...:001_tongue:

Auxillia = auxiliary

Yeah .... that ll happen when i have captured 40+ provinces and the senate thinks i am too powerful

I do that all the time

If you time your attack on the senate and the other families just right after the Marian reforms, your legionaries can attack their Principes and other weak units. You should not give them any time to prepare a new army...just attack with any new units you have.

Once I had destroyed a 10 stack enemy (older units) army with my 2 stacks of legionaries!

Status Report 2

Allies : No change .... Brutii , Scipii,Senate and Scythia

Date: 225 BC

Empire : Currently 14 provinces .... After a Brutal campaign inside Iberia (Spain) i managed to eliminate the Spanish Faction.I bribed 2 of their Princes into joining with me

I discovered that the Gauls have their capital inside Iberia ! .I already have captured 4 of their provinces and now i am set to attack and Destroy Gaul .They dont have much of an army .They have one full stack inside their capital . If i destroy it their economy will more or less collapse as they dont have any significant settlements anywhere else .

A Worrying point would be that the Brutti and the Scipii too have significantly expanded their presence . Scipii have wiped out Carthage while the Brutii have wiped out Greece .... should keep an eye on them

Doubts

1) Which is the best Unit to counter the naked fanatics ? (No Pics)

2) What are Arcani used for ?

Arcani.jpeg

They are too few to hold a line ... so what can they be used for ?

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Status Report 2



Doubts

1) Which is the best Unit to counter the naked fanatics ? (No Pics)

2) What are Arcani used for ?

Arcani.jpeg

They are too few to hold a line ... so what can they be used for ?

1) I have put an image which outlines a general strategy to counter the naked fanatics. It has worked for me without fail.



2) The Arcani are used to take down enemy kings, princes and other VIPs. Don't use them in regular combat, they are very expensive.

That staggard formation is interesting , will try it out

Its 223 BC and the Gauis reforms has been implemented ! .... Now i have Auxilia units ! ..... So i guess your dates were wrong ? or is it dependent on something else ?

I have the following units available now

Special unit
Samnite Gladiators
samnite.jpg
Missile Unit
Light Auxillia
light_auxilia.jpg
Infantry
Early Legionary
early_leg.jpg
Triarii Auxilia
triariiaux.jpg
Cavalry
Cavalry Auxilia
cavalry_aux.jpg

I have also started playing this game. Was looking for a game which i can play on my Low Config Laptop.

Originally Posted by 18lama

2) The Arcani are used to take down enemy kings, princes and other VIPs. Don't use them in regular combat, they are very expensive.

What ! ....... should i use Arcani against cavalry ?

and all Kings and princes are Heavy cavalry .... can the Arcani withstand Heavy cav charges ?

Originally Posted by saurav_k

I have also started playing this game. Was looking for a game which i can play on my Low Config Laptop.

Nice
Its a superb game
Did you know that "The History Channel" used this game to make a documentary on Rome and such ancient civilisations ?


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Time : 217 BC

Empire : 17 provinces

Gaul destroyed with some help from Brittania (British) . 2 Large armies ready to attack the Britons . They seem to have aggressively expanded and taken over a lot of territory .
Brutii slowly expanding defeating Macedonian armies
Scipii struggling to keep their empire intact as they are suffering rebellions in their captured towns



Doubt

I am suffering a lot of corruptions in the provinces i captured in Iberia , how can i reduce corruption ?
They are very far from my capital city

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

That staggard formation is interesting , will try it out

Its 223 BC and the Gauis reforms has been implemented ! .... Now i have Auxilia units ! ..... So i guess your dates were wrong ? or is it dependent on something else ?

I have the following units available now

Not a fix event...but more circumstantial. On harder levels it comes much later.

The arcani can hide and ambush the enemy generals.

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

What ! ....... should i use Arcani against cavalry ?

and all Kings and princes are Heavy cavalry .... can the Arcani withstand Heavy cav charges ?



Nice
Its a superb game
Did you know that "The History Channel" used this game to make a documentary on Rome and such ancient civilisations ?


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Time : 217 BC

Empire : 17 provinces

Gaul destroyed with some help from Brittania (British) . 2 Large armies ready to attack the Britons . They seem to have aggressively expanded and taken over a lot of territory .
Brutii slowly expanding defeating Macedonian armies
Scipii struggling to keep their empire intact as they are suffering rebellions in their captured towns



Doubt

I am suffering a lot of corruptions in the provinces i captured in Iberia , how can i reduce corruption ?
They are very far from my capital city

You have made a mistake..don't capture Britannia just yet. The cities are more like villages and you'll have to invest a lot of money and man power. You should try and capture Italy first, Greece and Macedonia second, Turkey third...because all the cities in these provinces are very well established. The 90% of them are coastal which means lot of trade income too.

Since you now have legionaries march your army onto Rome!unk:

Here's some details about Arcani:

Roman Arcani

They are a shadowy part of the Roman army organised in small groups and competent in camouflage and deception. The arcani exist almost as a secret society whose very name should not be spoken. The armour they wear is finely crafted so that while it offers great protection, it will not slow or tire the fantastically fit arcani troops. Their face masks mean opposing troops may even flee in terror when surprised by a group of these blood-thirsty killers!

For Corruption is Spain: Have you stationed any of your family members in that region...You should have at least 2 members...preferably young ones in Spain. That will reduce the corruption.

But if you are facing issues with corruption in Spain...what will happen when you capture Carthage, Turkey, Middle east and Egypt later...


Can you post a screen shot of your full army stack?

I think it would be bad idea for me to march into Rome for 2 reasons

1. I have 2 full stack armies positioned outside Brittania ready to move in for the kill

2. If i attack Rome then Scipii and Brutii will declare war on me . My trade with them will be drastically effected . This will reduce the income i get thru trade in ports . Most of my towns both in Italy and Spain are trading with Scipii or Brutii . and i dont think i can handle their combined army



Can you pls post a pic of the Imperial campaign map ? ..... i searched in the internet but could nt find one .... with it i ll be able to explain my situation better

Originally Posted by 18lama

[/I]For Corruption is Spain: Have you stationed any of your family members in that region...You should have at least 2 members...preferably young ones in Spain. That will reduce the corruption.

I only have a single Spanish general in the region who i bribed into joining me
i ll try sending one of the younger Generals in

Originally Posted by 18lama

But if you are facing issues with corruption in Spain...what will happen when you capture Carthage, Turkey, Middle east and Egypt later...

Carthage already captured by Scipii ... that region is problematic ...... i hate deserts anyway ...... not planning to capture it

Turkey ?? Do you mean the Selucids ?

Egypt is a big problem they have the second largest territory (largest is ofcourse mine ) ..... i have never encountered them in battle ..... dont even know where they are

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Doubt

How do i counter Charioteers ?....... Britons love to use them ........ They absolutely decimate my infantry ..... My heavy cav dont seem to have much effect on them ......
I only was partially successful in defeating Charioteers using Auxillias(spearmen) + 2 other units to attack from the back
I still suffered a lot of causalities with that method

Originally Posted by 18lama

You have made a mistake..don't capture Britannia just yet. The cities are more like villages and you'll have to invest a lot of money and man power. You should try and capture Italy first, Greece and Macedonia second, Turkey third...because all the cities in these provinces are very well established. The 90% of them are coastal which means lot of trade income too.

1. Money is not such a big problem right now .... i am stinking rich ..... milking all of my provinces with Heavy taxing +avoiding rebellions ... i am really good at this

2. Sparta was the last city to fall , Brutii have completely wiped out the greek cities

3. Brutii on a campaign to wipe out Macedonia , both fighting tooth and nail

RTW.JPG

I got a very small map

Red - Jullii (me)
Green - Brutii
Blue - Scipii
Note : The number of crosses mean nothing

Green colored land - Forests/Grasslands
Brown - Desert
Blackish bumps - Mountain ranges

As you can see

Scipii have captured all the small islands and Carthage , but they hold the least number of provinces

Brutii as you can see are expanding inside Greece

While both of their capitals are located in southern Italy

leftmost part of the map where i have put the biggest red cross is Iberia
The cross next to it is where i defeated and eliminated the Gauls and captured all their towns
The uncrossed land on top is mostly held by Brittania

i have not yet encountered other factions

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

I think it would be bad idea for me to march into Rome for 2 reasons

1. I have 2 full stack armies positioned outside Brittania ready to move in for the kill

2. If i attack Rome then Scipii and Brutii will declare war on me . My trade with them will be drastically effected . This will reduce the income i get thru trade in ports . Most of my towns both in Italy and Spain are trading with Scipii or Brutii . and i dont think i can handle their combined army



Can you pls post a pic of the Imperial campaign map ? ..... i searched in the internet but could nt find one .... with it i ll be able to explain my situation better


I only have a single Spanish general in the region who i bribed into joining me
i ll try sending one of the younger Generals in.

Why corruption is there:

Once you reach 50,000 denarii, you get an expenditure labelled "corruption."
The more over 50,000 you are, the more this will cost you. Faction members
generally get greedy after this amount and take a little for themselves. This
may seem harmless enough, but it can lead to bad traits and retinue. If
you're flirting with 50,000, build something so you're lower than it or bribe
a great general.

Carthage already captured by Scipii ... that region is problematic ...... i hate deserts anyway ...... not planning to capture it

You will need to capture Carthage in order to complete your campaign - No Carthage no victory.

Egypt is a big problem they have the second largest territory (largest is ofcourse mine ) ..... i have never encountered them in battle ..... don't even know where they are

They will be in south eastern turkey, middle east and Egypt. Oh and you will need to beat them too, if you hate British chariots...lol you'll absolutely loathe archer chariots used by the Egyptians.

Doubt

How do i counter Charioteers ?....... Britons love to use them ........ They absolutely decimate my infantry ..... My heavy cav dont seem to have much effect on them ......
I only was partially successful in defeating Charioteers using Auxillias(spearmen) + 2 other units to attack from the back
I still suffered a lot of causalities with that method

The only way to counter the chariots is never be on the defensive against them...Always use your cavalry to flank them, they have a pretty low defence value. But they can cut your legions into pieces pretty fast if you allow them to roam freely. Spearmen also don't have much effect on them also.

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1. Money is not such a big problem right now .... i am stinking rich ..... milking all of my provinces with Heavy taxing +avoiding rebellions ... i am really good at this

See my previous para on why too much money is bad for your empire. Also if you have lots of money you should build up atleast 6 new stacks with your latest units.

A typical stack for sieges: (have 2 of these)

2 onagers
1 general
3 archers
4 cavalry
8 legionaries
2 spearman

A typical stack for hinterland battles: (have 4 of these)

2 onagers
1 general
4/5 archers
8/9 legionaries
3 spearman
2 cavalry

2. Sparta was the last city to fall , Brutii have completely wiped out the Greek cities

You have now allowed them to become very very strong...

3. Brutii on a campaign to wipe out Macedonia , both fighting tooth and nail[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShAdOwCoN;170508]

I got a very small map

Can't you capture a screen from your game and post it here?

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leftmost part of the map where i have put the biggest red cross is Iberia
The cross next to it is where i defeated and eliminated the Gauls and captured all their towns
The uncrossed land on top is mostly held by Brittania

i have not yet encountered other factions

Capture Italy..capture Greece...capture Turkey and wipe out the other Roman factions from European mainland.

Originally Posted by mail2sc

MERE dimaage ke upar se tangent banake nikal gaya , bhaai

Well not all threads are chat threads, are they...

Originally Posted by mail2sc

MERE dimaage ke upar se tangent banake nikal gaya , bhaai

wow so you were actually following this discussion ?

without playing the game or having a very good knowledge about Roman history its very very difficult

i am trying to find out how to take a screenshot

corruption
That info was very useful !

trying now

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

wow so you were actually following this discussion ?

without playing the game or having a very good knowledge about Roman history its very very difficult

i am trying to find out how to take a screenshot

corruption
That info was very useful !

trying now

Use this utility to capture movies and/or screens from any game: FRAPS show fps, record video game movies, screen capture software

When you do reach 50,000 raises your taxes in cities which are far away from your capital to an extent where the population stops growing or grows at .5%. You'll have to strike a fine balance with taxes; you can't let the people become angry and stop the population growth too. Once you know how to find this balance, you'll become a master of this game.

PS : I converted the image to JIF so it is of lower quality....anti-aliasing switched of as it interferes with screen shot taking process

In Gamescreenshot
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Strategic Map view of Game
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BTW Green dudes are Brutii !

Originally Posted by 18lama

When you do reach 50,000 raises your taxes in cities which are far away from your capital to an extent where the population stops growing or grows at .5%. You'll have to strike a fine balance with taxes; you can't let the people become angry and stop the population growth too. Once you know how to find this balance, you'll become a master of this game.

1. I use this trick .... My faction leader has been nicknamed " Tax farmer "

2. Taxes are auto managed if there is no General in the city .... i am short of Generals

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

1. I use this trick .... My faction leader has been nicknamed " Tax farmer "

2. Taxes are auto managed if there is no General in the city .... i am short of Generals

Sorry but only n00bs set the taxes to auto. Any player who wants total control will micro manage.

A tip: Get an alliance with the selucids...pay them boat loads of money to declare war on The brutii and then when they are too busy fighting in the east...you can:shuriken:

U misunderstood

I do not have a choice !

Taxes are auomanaged in cities without Generals (princes and kings)

I manage taxes in cities with Generals

Originally Posted by 18lama

A tip: Get an alliance with the selucids...pay them boat loads of money to declare war on The brutii and then when they are too busy fighting in the east...you can:shuriken:

I dont know where Seleucids are .... They are too far away imo

I think you should first analyze my position

See the mini map in my screen shots again (Bottom Left)

I am Julii - Red

Dark Blue (Bottom of the map) - Scipii

Light Green - Brutii

Yellow - Egypt

Brown - Dacia (My border on the right )

Dark Brown - Germania (Hard to notice....sandwiched between Britons...right at the top)

Black - Macedonia (bordering Brutii)

sea blue (Exact same color as the sea) - Thrace (sandwiched between Dacia (Brown) and Macedonia (Black) )

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

U misunderstood

I do not have a choice !

Taxes are auomanaged in cities without Generals (princes and kings)

I manage taxes in cities with Generals



I dont know where Seleucids are .... They are too far away imo

I think you should first analyze my position

See the mini map in my screen shots again (Bottom Left)

I am Julii - Red

Light Green - Brutii

Brown - Dacia (My border on the right )

Black - Macedonia (bordering Brutii)

Seleucids = The guys who are occupying Turkey atm. (dark teal colour)

Brown - Dacia

Get an alliance with both of them or any one of them...and pay them whatever they want to declare a war on Brutii from the on either fronts.

Dacia only happen to have 3 to 4 provinces .... i feel sorry for them actually ..... they are defending their towns with just few bands of light infantry/archers ..... imo i can overrun them with just half a stack .... but not doing so because like i said i am feeling sorry for them ! .... they offered me 50 denarii for the sake of brotherhood (thats about all they could spare !) poor guys



Dacia cannot attack Brutii ... should check to see who else is there



Doubt

Will the senate , Brutii and Scipii get the Auxillia units ???

right now i did not see any such units with them yet

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Dacia only happen to have 3 to 4 provinces .... i feel sorry for them actually ..... they are defending their towns with just few bands of light infantry/archers ..... imo i can overrun them with just half a stack .... but not doing so because like i said i am feeling sorry for them ! .... they offered me 50 denarii for the sake of brotherhood (thats about all they could spare !) poor guys



Dacia cannot attack Brutii ... should check to see who else is there



Doubt

Will the senate , Brutii and Scipii get the Auxillia units ???

right now i did not see any such units with them yet

Simple: They haven't started upgrading their army...I've been telling you for 2 days. If you have a modern army you have a definite edge against other Roman factions.

i cannot still attack Rome until i have the support of the Roman people (Roman plebs)

which right now i dont have .... what i mean is that i am not allowed to attack Rome now


Status report

Julii - I managed to capture a lot of British territory , landed an army in the British isles and overran one of his bigger towns at the same time blockading his ports with my ships ...... He had his capital in the British islands but shifted it to mainland Europe as soon as i landed an army in the isles ... clever but not good enough

Its 204 BC and i have 23 provinces .....

Brutii wiped out the Macedonians ..... now moving towards the Scythians
who have only one province under their control

Scipii still busy fighting the Egyptians ... they have their hands full ....

time is nearing ... think i will attack rome in a few decades ... as soon as the Roman plebs allow me to

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status report

Britons have just 3 provinces remaining . they dont have any army . will try and force them to become a protectorate of mine.also my army is marching towards the last Dacian province/capital.

The plebeians finally gave me permission to attack Rome ! .

Timeline : 197 BC

Empire : 33 provinces

will wait for an update once you start the civil war...if you haven't done so already.

I am planning to overthrow senate

As you can see (the mini map , bottom left) i have just one more Dacian town to overthrow .... after that i ll be attacking the senate .....Britons have 3 more provinces but they are too weak to trouble me anymore

there are 2 problems i am facing now

1) Brutii have spammed an obscene amount of armies inside Greece .... my towns bordering these will be very unsafe once civil war breaks out

My forces have been stretched thin after the war with Britons and Dacia .... dont have any full stacks

what can i do now ?

map2.jpg

i absolutely suck at taking down walled cities ... any strategy i can follow ?

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spearmen.jpg