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Admin · 13-10-2008, 01:51 AM

What you are saying is well out of order...

What you are saying is that the criminals who used voilence against Christians should be made happy by banning conversions and those who would like to convert in future should be banned and if they do it would make them criminals?

So once you are made the prime minester of India you would ban conversions in India... what about those who are christians now and want to convert to Hinduism? would you allow them?
Would you give them state honours who set those villages on fire?

itsmemad · 13-10-2008, 02:13 AM

I'm saying that its the politicians who encourage those criminals... And we Indians should rise above from religious sentiments... And I'm not asking for a complete ban... Occassional conversion is allright... but there should be some check on mass conversion....
I'm not talking about any particular religion also... ban mass conversion in any faith... check it again in previous posts...

ShAdOwCoN · 13-10-2008, 02:26 AM

I think corrupt politicians are responsible and not Mass conversions ... already RSS/BJP has got into trouble with Muslims [Babri Masjith ].....Congress with Sikhs [Anti-Sikh riots of the 80 s] .....BJP against Muslims again [Inflammatory Movie CDs] ....Now Christians ...They just keep finding new reasons

Latest being Mass Conversion .....

Uprooting these elements[people] is the main task ....cause if encouraged they ll keep finding new reasons
Their Aim is to incite Majority community against some minority community and take this oppurtunity to put themselves in power along with taking up some followers who wrongly believe that these people are interested in the welfare of the common people

Admin · 13-10-2008, 02:35 AM

I am against any kind of voilence... doesnt matter what the justification the voilent party is giving... you can never justify voilence against anyone... what is the legal system here for?

If someone doesnt like something take legal action and if you cannot do anything legally that means its legal and if youve got problems with other law abiding citizens then you are at fault and you need to find another country to live in.

By you I mean those who use voilence.

And same goes for those who are planting bombs in India in the name of jihad... or what ever they call it... they need to be chucked out of this country ... got no right to kill innocent people.

ShAdOwCoN · 13-10-2008, 02:36 AM

Exactly ...y take the law into our hands ? y do we have a govt ,leaders etc

Admin · 13-10-2008, 02:42 AM

itsmemad I hope you wont take anything I said to your heart

itsmemad · 13-10-2008, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Admin

itsmemad I hope you wont take anything I said to your heart

Can I afford to do that?

well, as long as it doesn't get personal I don't mind... don't worry... chill.. I'm just pissed of current bunch of politicians... therez not a single hero like personality... whom we can follow... Mr. Singh or Vajpayee are too mild... We are suffering from identity crisis... There should be atleast one person whose call should unite whole nation... be it Mahatma Gandhi or Subhash Chandra Bose... we need 1..

Admin · 13-10-2008, 02:55 AM

There is a need of a lot of educated politicians in our country (there are some already but thats not enough)
Our country is run with vot bank politics and not on economic and other agendas... elections are fought on religion and caste and all that ... this sort of rotten politics needs to go.

We need to get our whole nation educated... good education can get rid of a lot of problems.
There was this right to education bill comming up what happend to it? good things are always pushed aside! never heard of it again ... is it dumped?

ShAdOwCoN · 13-10-2008, 03:07 AM

Chinese are way before us in this respect

India due to its uneducated politicians/citizens is spiraling into violent chaos ....Remember that CEO who was bludgeoned to death ...there is complete anarchy in the country ...nobody seems to be able to stop it ...Tata being chucked is another example ......

itsmemad · 13-10-2008, 03:16 AM

@ Admin...
I've no idea about that bill... don't worry about it now... It must be biting dust somewhere...

13-10-2008, 01:51 AM	#21
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 31 Posts: 3,655 Rep Power: 10	What you are saying is well out of order... What you are saying is that the criminals who used voilence against Christians should be made happy by banning conversions and those who would like to convert in future should be banned and if they do it would make them criminals? So once you are made the prime minester of India you would ban conversions in India... what about those who are christians now and want to convert to Hinduism? would you allow them? Would you give them state honours who set those villages on fire? __________________

13-10-2008, 02:13 AM	#22
itsmemad Alligator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Patna, Pune Posts: 2,637 Rep Power: 3	I'm saying that its the politicians who encourage those criminals... And we Indians should rise above from religious sentiments... And I'm not asking for a complete ban... Occassional conversion is allright... but there should be some check on mass conversion.... I'm not talking about any particular religion also... ban mass conversion in any faith... check it again in previous posts... __________________ Kaspersky 2009 Review Hollywood Movie Review Web based free applications

13-10-2008, 02:26 AM	#23
ShAdOwCoN Phantom Lancer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Void Posts: 2,236 Rep Power: 3	I think corrupt politicians are responsible and not Mass conversions ... already RSS/BJP has got into trouble with Muslims [Babri Masjith ].....Congress with Sikhs [Anti-Sikh riots of the 80 s] .....BJP against Muslims again [Inflammatory Movie CDs] ....Now Christians ...They just keep finding new reasons Latest being Mass Conversion ..... Uprooting these elements[people] is the main task ....cause if encouraged they ll keep finding new reasons Their Aim is to incite Majority community against some minority community and take this oppurtunity to put themselves in power along with taking up some followers who wrongly believe that these people are interested in the welfare of the common people __________________ "Vae Victis" -> "Woe To The Conquered!" - Brennus ( Gaulish Warlord )

13-10-2008, 02:35 AM	#24
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 31 Posts: 3,655 Rep Power: 10	I am against any kind of voilence... doesnt matter what the justification the voilent party is giving... you can never justify voilence against anyone... what is the legal system here for? If someone doesnt like something take legal action and if you cannot do anything legally that means its legal and if youve got problems with other law abiding citizens then you are at fault and you need to find another country to live in. By you I mean those who use voilence. And same goes for those who are planting bombs in India in the name of jihad... or what ever they call it... they need to be chucked out of this country ... got no right to kill innocent people. Last edited by Admin; 13-10-2008 at 02:36 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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13-10-2008, 02:36 AM	#25
ShAdOwCoN Phantom Lancer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Void Posts: 2,236 Rep Power: 3	Exactly ...y take the law into our hands ? y do we have a govt ,leaders etc

13-10-2008, 02:42 AM	#26
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 31 Posts: 3,655 Rep Power: 10	itsmemad I hope you wont take anything I said to your heart

13-10-2008, 02:55 AM	#28
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 31 Posts: 3,655 Rep Power: 10	There is a need of a lot of educated politicians in our country (there are some already but thats not enough) Our country is run with vot bank politics and not on economic and other agendas... elections are fought on religion and caste and all that ... this sort of rotten politics needs to go. We need to get our whole nation educated... good education can get rid of a lot of problems. There was this right to education bill comming up what happend to it? good things are always pushed aside! never heard of it again ... is it dumped?

13-10-2008, 03:07 AM	#29
ShAdOwCoN Phantom Lancer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Void Posts: 2,236 Rep Power: 3	Chinese are way before us in this respect India due to its uneducated politicians/citizens is spiraling into violent chaos ....Remember that CEO who was bludgeoned to death ...there is complete anarchy in the country ...nobody seems to be able to stop it ...Tata being chucked is another example ......

13-10-2008, 03:16 AM	#30
itsmemad Alligator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Patna, Pune Posts: 2,637 Rep Power: 3	@ Admin... I've no idea about that bill... don't worry about it now... It must be biting dust somewhere...