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Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-03-08, 02:58 PM

guys.. i wanna open ftp of sites.. llike any sites.. just to download things.. it seems u can donwload faster and without noticing tht u r downloading things.. but i have a problem.. some guys told tht ftp was open before few years.. now it seems not.. my friend used to download form microsoft page.. using ftp.. loads .. but then they blocked it.. i mean.. now if u wanna go to any site's ftp.. u need pass word and name....

if ppl know this thing.. pl post your comments..

also i woould like to have some nice web sites where i can download songs.. apps.. games all things.. using ftp..plz provide username and password if needed.. thanks.. i know someone or the other must be using this trick

sb21pro · 09-03-08, 07:14 PM

a web sites FTP is only for its administrator , like for admin for this site, or me for my site. its for uploading files to the server internally. its not for PUBLIC use

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-03-08, 07:26 PM

tht i know.. but i wana know how to open.. others.. actually piracy is banned.. tht doesnt mean ppl dont have pirated stuff... same thing.. guys.. can u ppl tell me.. how to open ftp/...

sb21pro · 09-03-08, 07:29 PM

well you cant, its done over a 128 bit ssl. you need a acc, but some servers do allow some guest ftp access but i dont know who.

risingsun · 09-04-08, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb21pro

you need a acc, but some servers do allow some guest ftp access but i dont know who.

i downloaded my study material provided by IGATE company on Ftp server only..but Unless n until Administrator allows u to see thru ftp server contents , u cant see them..i downloaded from one file at the server ..however lot of files were visible,but i could not access them..
so it seemed like even afteer loggin in ,administator decided which file shud be accessed by me!!..

I m highly impressed by this Ftp server..i wanna know more about this..
can nybudy help??

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-05-08, 01:43 AM

hmm.. lets see... where r our leaders.. smoothvibes.. whitestar... just4kix.. plz dear we need u................... some kinda hardcore hacker or hardcore software engineer... most welcome... he he he..

strider · 09-06-08, 06:44 PM

Rather than opening FTP, Why don't you use it and serve the internet community and earn credit for your work. Oh, yes!!, you can also earn money.

Admin · 09-06-08, 06:54 PM

Opening up ftp for everyone poses a huge security risk and thats the main reason no one allows it these days and more over it is almost impossible to generate any revenue by providing free ftp access... You might be able to find a site where you would have to pay a membership fee monthly or weekly or something like that but I doubt it that you would find a webmaster giving you free ftp access to download movies and music and stuff...

Have you tried torrents?

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-08-08, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin

Opening up ftp for everyone poses a huge security risk and thats the main reason no one allows it these days and more over it is almost impossible to generate any revenue by providing free ftp access... You might be able to find a site where you would have to pay a membership fee monthly or weekly or something like that but I doubt it that you would find a webmaster giving you free ftp access to download movies and music and stuff...

Have you tried torrents?

hia admin.. yes tried torrents.. tired.. of not getting speed.. regarding.. ftp.. above someone said like i can manage.. somethin like.. and earn.. from it.. wat is it?? can u plz explain...

smoothvibes · 09-08-08, 10:49 PM

just try to understand the simple term ftp here which is file transfer protocol which is used to upload and download files, i suggest you to try torrents only to download music and movies coz i dont know any admin or site which provides access to ftp free of charge and apart from that if you are getting your purpose solved by torrents then why to go for any ftp, but if you just want to check what ftp is and how it works then you can go to ftp.microsoft.com from there you can download some useless microsoft games and applications.

do you know how to add an ftp location on computer or not, please update if you need any help after this.

i still suggest you to go for torrents and if you are not getting proper speed with torrents then try to change port or use torrents and port forwarding guide by just4kix that may help you to improve p2p speed

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-08-08, 11:16 PM

hmm ok smootie.. i think i will go deep.. in torrents.. like still now my port forwarding is not success.. in it.. as like what just4kix told in utorrent port forwarding tutorial,,, tht screen i mean tht settings.. i m not getting.. i have latest version of utorrent 1.8 built 11813. i dont know where tht settings come., as i think the tutrorial explained is in older version..

smoothvibes · 09-08-08, 11:26 PM

dont worry will check that new version soon and will update here...
i m sure out port forwarding guru just4kix will help you with new version, dont worry

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-08-08, 11:38 PM

HMMM ya.. dude. he is our porf forwarding guru.. lolz.. i will ask him surely now.. by the way where is he?? i dindt see him,, since ages.. last 3 days.. i was out of station.. for patients work.. before tht also.. i neva seen his replies.. i guess now a days busy.. i think

smoothvibes · 09-09-08, 12:00 AM

i a word called him on sat evening and his BSNL is not working, today he got the call from BSNL that its fixed now.. but as he is not here so i think it is still not fixed..

same for me even my connection is not working from last 7 days now and m at work right now

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-09-08, 12:02 AM

I see ok ok

just4kix · 09-09-08, 01:37 PM

Hi, I am here. I did read this thread. But admin and others had already put in their thoughts.

To access an 'ftp' site, the ftp port (21) must be open on that site. Nowadays very few site admins open their website for ftp. And then the FTP server must be in DMZ to protect the rest of the infrastructure from worms and other hacking attempts. There are two download protocols - HTTP and FTP (well, three including P2P).

It is a misconception to believe that FTP will give you better speeds.

FTP pros:

HTTP adds headers to each packer. There is no such addition in case of FTP, it is just a raw data file
HTTP encodes and compresses data before sending but not FTP. This works very well for small files.

HTTP pros:

HTTP reuses the existing persistent connections and hence TCP performance is better
Use of pipelines makes asking for multiple files from the same server faster
Because of automatic compression, makes less data get sent
In FTP, the transfer is serial and interface has to wait for current packet to be downloaded successfully before requesting the next packet. No such command/response flow minimizes in HTTP.

Ultimately the net outcome of course differ depending on specific details, but I would say that for single-shot static files, you won't be able to measure a difference. For a single shot small file, you might get it faster with FTP (unless the server is at a long round-trip distance). When getting multiple files, HTTP should be the faster one.

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 09-09-08, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just4kix

Hi, I am here. I did read this thread. But admin and others had already put in their thoughts.

To access an 'ftp' site, the ftp port (21) must be open on that site. Nowadays very few site admins open their website for ftp. And then the FTP server must be in DMZ to protect the rest of the infrastructure from worms and other hacking attempts. There are two download protocols - HTTP and FTP (well, three including P2P).

It is a misconception to believe that FTP will give you better speeds.

FTP pros:

HTTP adds headers to each packer. There is no such addition in case of FTP, it is just a raw data file
HTTP encodes and compresses data before sending but not FTP. This works very well for small files.

now tht is what i call....... perfect note.. kixxi... love u man.. ur knowledge... hats off.....yippie..

HTTP pros:

HTTP reuses the existing persistent connections and hence TCP performance is better
Use of pipelines makes asking for multiple files from the same server faster
Because of automatic compression, makes less data get sent
In FTP, the transfer is serial and interface has to wait for current packet to be downloaded successfully before requesting the next packet. No such command/response flow minimizes in HTTP.

Ultimately the net outcome of course differ depending on specific details, but I would say that for single-shot static files, you won't be able to measure a difference. For a single shot small file, you might get it faster with FTP (unless the server is at a long round-trip distance). When getting multiple files, HTTP should be the faster one.

kixxxi,,, now thts very satisfactory answer.. love u buddy.. lolz... your knowledge is ossom... hats off

just4kix · 09-09-08, 09:01 PM

Thanks.

FTP is a protocol that was invented before HTTP. Because of its security risks (HTTP has them too), most admins now allow FTP via secure methods only (SFTP). SFTP port is 22. But even then security experts are still shy of allowing FTP (or SFTP).

smoothvibes · 09-09-08, 10:55 PM

great stuff just4kix...

honestly

09-03-08, 02:58 PM	#1
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	how to open ftp??? guys.. i wanna open ftp of sites.. llike any sites.. just to download things.. it seems u can donwload faster and without noticing tht u r downloading things.. but i have a problem.. some guys told tht ftp was open before few years.. now it seems not.. my friend used to download form microsoft page.. using ftp.. loads .. but then they blocked it.. i mean.. now if u wanna go to any site's ftp.. u need pass word and name.... if ppl know this thing.. pl post your comments.. also i woould like to have some nice web sites where i can download songs.. apps.. games all things.. using ftp..plz provide username and password if needed.. thanks.. i know someone or the other must be using this trick

09-09-08, 12:00 AM	#14
smoothvibes Aditya Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi/ London Posts: 4,914 Rep Power: 11	i a word called him on sat evening and his BSNL is not working, today he got the call from BSNL that its fixed now.. but as he is not here so i think it is still not fixed.. same for me even my connection is not working from last 7 days now and m at work right now Last edited by smoothvibes; 09-09-08 at 10:52 PM.

09-09-08, 01:37 PM	#16
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	Hi, I am here. I did read this thread. But admin and others had already put in their thoughts. To access an 'ftp' site, the ftp port (21) must be open on that site. Nowadays very few site admins open their website for ftp. And then the FTP server must be in DMZ to protect the rest of the infrastructure from worms and other hacking attempts. There are two download protocols - HTTP and FTP (well, three including P2P). It is a misconception to believe that FTP will give you better speeds. FTP pros: HTTP adds headers to each packer. There is no such addition in case of FTP, it is just a raw data file HTTP encodes and compresses data before sending but not FTP. This works very well for small files. HTTP pros: HTTP reuses the existing persistent connections and hence TCP performance is better Use of pipelines makes asking for multiple files from the same server faster Because of automatic compression, makes less data get sent In FTP, the transfer is serial and interface has to wait for current packet to be downloaded successfully before requesting the next packet. No such command/response flow minimizes in HTTP. Ultimately the net outcome of course differ depending on specific details, but I would say that for single-shot static files, you won't be able to measure a difference. For a single shot small file, you might get it faster with FTP (unless the server is at a long round-trip distance). When getting multiple files, HTTP should be the faster one. __________________ * Never argue with an idiot * To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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09-03-08, 07:14 PM	#2
sb21pro Lost Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Goa, for now Posts: 1,690 Rep Power: 4	a web sites FTP is only for its administrator , like for admin for this site, or me for my site. its for uploading files to the server internally. its not for PUBLIC use

09-03-08, 07:26 PM	#3
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	tht i know.. but i wana know how to open.. others.. actually piracy is banned.. tht doesnt mean ppl dont have pirated stuff... same thing.. guys.. can u ppl tell me.. how to open ftp/...

09-03-08, 07:29 PM	#4
sb21pro Lost Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Goa, for now Posts: 1,690 Rep Power: 4	well you cant, its done over a 128 bit ssl. you need a acc, but some servers do allow some guest ftp access but i dont know who.

09-05-08, 01:43 AM	#6
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	hmm.. lets see... where r our leaders.. smoothvibes.. whitestar... just4kix.. plz dear we need u................... some kinda hardcore hacker or hardcore software engineer... most welcome... he he he..

09-06-08, 06:44 PM	#7
strider Platinum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Minas Tirth, Middle Earth Posts: 1,093 Rep Power: 5	Rather than opening FTP, Why don't you use it and serve the internet community and earn credit for your work. Oh, yes!!, you can also earn money.

09-06-08, 06:54 PM	#8
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 32 Posts: 4,700 Rep Power: 12	Opening up ftp for everyone poses a huge security risk and thats the main reason no one allows it these days and more over it is almost impossible to generate any revenue by providing free ftp access... You might be able to find a site where you would have to pay a membership fee monthly or weekly or something like that but I doubt it that you would find a webmaster giving you free ftp access to download movies and music and stuff... Have you tried torrents?

09-08-08, 10:49 PM	#10
smoothvibes Aditya Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi/ London Posts: 4,914 Rep Power: 11	just try to understand the simple term ftp here which is file transfer protocol which is used to upload and download files, i suggest you to try torrents only to download music and movies coz i dont know any admin or site which provides access to ftp free of charge and apart from that if you are getting your purpose solved by torrents then why to go for any ftp, but if you just want to check what ftp is and how it works then you can go to ftp.microsoft.com from there you can download some useless microsoft games and applications. do you know how to add an ftp location on computer or not, please update if you need any help after this. i still suggest you to go for torrents and if you are not getting proper speed with torrents then try to change port or use torrents and port forwarding guide by just4kix that may help you to improve p2p speed

09-08-08, 11:16 PM	#11
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	hmm ok smootie.. i think i will go deep.. in torrents.. like still now my port forwarding is not success.. in it.. as like what just4kix told in utorrent port forwarding tutorial,,, tht screen i mean tht settings.. i m not getting.. i have latest version of utorrent 1.8 built 11813. i dont know where tht settings come., as i think the tutrorial explained is in older version..

09-08-08, 11:26 PM	#12
smoothvibes Aditya Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi/ London Posts: 4,914 Rep Power: 11	dont worry will check that new version soon and will update here... i m sure out port forwarding guru just4kix will help you with new version, dont worry

09-08-08, 11:38 PM	#13
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	HMMM ya.. dude. he is our porf forwarding guru.. lolz.. i will ask him surely now.. by the way where is he?? i dindt see him,, since ages.. last 3 days.. i was out of station.. for patients work.. before tht also.. i neva seen his replies.. i guess now a days busy.. i think

09-09-08, 12:02 AM	#15
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	I see ok ok

09-09-08, 09:01 PM	#18
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	Thanks. FTP is a protocol that was invented before HTTP. Because of its security risks (HTTP has them too), most admins now allow FTP via secure methods only (SFTP). SFTP port is 22. But even then security experts are still shy of allowing FTP (or SFTP).

09-09-08, 10:55 PM	#19
smoothvibes Aditya Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi/ London Posts: 4,914 Rep Power: 11	great stuff just4kix... honestly

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