Indian Cricket Team is Bunch of Dopers?

[swami2x]

So what you guys think about the recent issue between WADA & BCCI?. I am pritty amazed to see that indian players are against the world known anti-doping body's rules.. What are they scared of?

The are 1000's of players who abide by rules of WADA. then Why the heck indian cricket team got a problem with WADA. Cricket is a religion here.. players like sachin are considered god here. but why such a legendary player like him opposing rules of WADA?. I cant believe that indian team isnt properly educated by BCCI about the rules of WADA. They are just making excuses to avoid getting tested for drugs that i think most of them take. Those could be performance enhancing drugs or some other drugs to avoid injuries.

I am a big fan of indian cricket... but i now started feeling that Indian cricket team is just a bunch of dopers.. who are just trying to bypass the world code of sports.

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[Luke Skywalker]

My views are illogical & irrational. So you don't need to hear it. I am irrational.

Originally Posted by swami2x

I am a big fan of indian cricket... but i now started feeling that Indian cricket team is just a bunch of dopers.. who are just trying to bypass the world code of sports.

No prove of that till now. As I can't recall an Indian player who have been caught for doping.

[Punch Farce]

I don't think the Indian athletes are doping, If they are doping
we will see some performance out of them. you don't need
dope for utter mediocrity.

-F

Originally Posted by farce

I don't think the Indian athletes are doping, If they are doping
we will see some performance out of them. you don't need
dope for utter mediocrity.

-F

Reps

[itsmemad]

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

[Punch Farce]

Originally Posted by saurav_k

Reps

thanks Saurav.

-F

Originally Posted by itsmemad

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

agree with you.

[sagar rao]

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

[mickey]

cricks not signing up the wada order, means like something black in the gram.

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by sagar rao

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

What 'bout other professions? High ranking officials also have to disclosed their location when they go on holiday. It don't violate their privacy as they are not intruded but they can be called for urgent purpose. Doping is urgent purpose.

[Punch Farce]

Originally Posted by sagar rao

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

what is their 'free time', so you are saying that in their free time
if the take dope and performance enhancing drugs that is OK,
you are saying they should not take this only when they are touring
but rest of the time it is OK. Doesn't make sense man.

-F

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by mickey

cricks not signing up the wada order, means like something black in the gram.

How come you agree with me?

Originally Posted by farce

what is their 'free time', so you are saying that in their free time
if the take dope and performance enhancing drugs that is OK,
you are saying they should not take this only when they are touring
but rest of the time it is OK. Doesn't make sense man.

-F

Agree with ya.

[mickey]

Originally Posted by Luke

How come you agree with me?



Agree with ya.

friends can agree on some points besides intellectual differences..

[swami2x]

Originally Posted by sagar rao

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

That is the price a world class player needs to pay, if he really wants to play.. Come on man.. world's most respected players from various sports follow wada rules.. what the heck is wrong with indian players? Leave other sports .. Australian's, Engishmen, West Indies, Sri Lanka and even pakistani cricket players dont have a problem with wada.. then what the heck is wrong with our players. I guess most of them use drugs (Parties) when they are off the ground so they dont wanted to get tested positive. lolz

indeed even australians cricket board have a problem with the wada rules

[swami2x]

Originally Posted by itsmemad

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

Lol.. are you smokin up something? So you want our player to start doing drugs and play.. then we will soon see marijuana break rather than tea break. Dude every game is a combination of strenth, skill, stamina. Some need physical strenth and stamina and some need mental. No game can be played without any of it missing.

Originally Posted by newprouser

indeed even australians cricket board have a problem with the wada rules

I just read that ausies started backing up indian's against wada rules.. even if they do.. you think its right? I wish ICC sack India and Australia from cric playing nations list if they refuse to sign agreement.

[itsmemad]

Originally Posted by swami2x

So you want our player to start doing drugs and play.. then we will soon see marijuana break rather than tea break. Dude every game is a combination of strenth, skill, stamina. Some need physical strenth and stamina and some need mental. No game can be played without any of it missing.

For your information, drugs like marijuana etc. don't do any good to an athelete. Sport drugs are different which are normally taken in consultation with someone who knows about medicines.

I agree that every game is a combination of the above mentioned things. But Cricket is a different game altogether. It's a misconception that you do not have to be very fit to play cricket. Fast bowlers, batsmen running between the wickets, and fielders chasing a ball have to be able to move suddenly, extremely quickly, and powerfully for brief amounts of time. This pattern of inactivity followed by dynamic movement carries a high risk of injury. Fast bowlers are particularly vulnerable if they are unfit or if their running and bowling technique is poor. Injuries of the shoulders, back, knees, and ankles are common. The risk of injury can be reduced if players are in good physical condition; if they warm up and perform stretching exercises before playing; and if they keep mobile during periods of relative inactivity.

No other game goes on for 5 long days (Test matches) or even 1 whole day (ODIs). So, it's natural that the players are on high risk of injury throughout the longer playing time. That's why I don't mind if Cricketers take medical drugs to keep themselves fit, reduce their rehabilitation time after an injury and lengthen their career. It's a pity that players of Flintoff's class are avoiding to play Test cricket so early because their body can't take the endurance anymore.

[swami2x]

Originally Posted by itsmemad

For your information, drugs like marijuana etc. don't do any good to an athelete. Sport drugs are different which are normally taken in consultation with someone who knows about medicines.

I agree that every game is a combination of the above mentioned things. But Cricket is a different game altogether. It's a misconception that you do not have to be very fit to play cricket. Fast bowlers, batsmen running between the wickets, and fielders chasing a ball have to be able to move suddenly, extremely quickly, and powerfully for brief amounts of time. This pattern of inactivity followed by dynamic movement carries a high risk of injury. Fast bowlers are particularly vulnerable if they are unfit or if their running and bowling technique is poor. Injuries of the shoulders, back, knees, and ankles are common. The risk of injury can be reduced if players are in good physical condition; if they warm up and perform stretching exercises before playing; and if they keep mobile during periods of relative inactivity.

No other game goes on for 5 long days (Test matches) or even 1 whole day (ODIs). So, it's natural that the players are on high risk of injury throughout the longer playing time. That's why I don't mind if Cricketers take medical drugs to keep themselves fit, reduce their rehabilitation time after an injury and lengthen their career. It's a pity that players of Flintoff's class are avoiding to play Test cricket so early because their body can't take the endurance anymore.

Well.. I just gave a example like it will happen if our players started using drugs and our sports cell's approved this. I never said cricket does require one to be partially fit. One need to be prime in his health to play this sport. Now that again doesnt mean that our players start using drugs and steroids to keep them fit and play for longer times. This is against the spirit of sports.
We need natural and healthy competition between the players and that can only be achieved if we eliminate drugs from sports. Btw i respect flintoff for his timely out. Every player has a limit no one can play till there 50's. Indian players just dont want to quit coz its money maker sport!!

[itsmemad]

I'm not actually endorsing drug abuse in cricket. Infact, I'm quite happy with the current system of ICC, which randomly collects sample from players and punish or fine them if they are found guilty. Remember Shane Warne? Hez not the only example, there are many...

I don't want WADA in Cricket as it equates the game with other sports... When it's not! I've already explained why, in the previous post.

Flintoff was out of Cricket field for 2 years in last four years. I'm sure he must have taken some drugs to reduce the rehabilitation time. If WADA would have been in the picture, he could have spent more time off the field than he actually did. Flintoff is just an example.

Regarding Indian players point you raised, that's a completely different topic.

[mickey]

lets everyone dope and see who wins...







atlast its just the skills ...