Indian Cricket Team is Bunch of Dopers?

[swami2x]

So what you guys think about the recent issue between WADA & BCCI?. I am pritty amazed to see that indian players are against the world known anti-doping body's rules.. What are they scared of?

The are 1000's of players who abide by rules of WADA. then Why the heck indian cricket team got a problem with WADA. Cricket is a religion here.. players like sachin are considered god here. but why such a legendary player like him opposing rules of WADA?. I cant believe that indian team isnt properly educated by BCCI about the rules of WADA. They are just making excuses to avoid getting tested for drugs that i think most of them take. Those could be performance enhancing drugs or some other drugs to avoid injuries.

I am a big fan of indian cricket... but i now started feeling that Indian cricket team is just a bunch of dopers.. who are just trying to bypass the world code of sports.

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[Luke Skywalker]

My views are illogical & irrational. So you don't need to hear it. I am irrational.

I am a big fan of indian cricket... but i now started feeling that Indian cricket team is just a bunch of dopers.. who are just trying to bypass the world code of sports.

No prove of that till now. As I can't recall an Indian player who have been caught for doping.

[Punch Farce]

I don't think the Indian athletes are doping, If they are doping
we will see some performance out of them. you don't need
dope for utter mediocrity.

-F

[saurav_k]

I don't think the Indian athletes are doping, If they are doping
we will see some performance out of them. you don't need
dope for utter mediocrity.

-F

Reps

[itsmemad]

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

[Punch Farce]

Reps

thanks Saurav.

-F

[oshhh]

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

agree with you.

[sagar rao]

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

[mickey]

cricks not signing up the wada order, means like something black in the gram.

[Luke Skywalker]

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

What 'bout other professions? High ranking officials also have to disclosed their location when they go on holiday. It don't violate their privacy as they are not intruded but they can be called for urgent purpose. Doping is urgent purpose.

[Punch Farce]

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

what is their 'free time', so you are saying that in their free time
if the take dope and performance enhancing drugs that is OK,
you are saying they should not take this only when they are touring
but rest of the time it is OK. Doesn't make sense man.

-F

[Luke Skywalker]

cricks not signing up the wada order, means like something black in the gram.

How come you agree with me?

what is their 'free time', so you are saying that in their free time
if the take dope and performance enhancing drugs that is OK,
you are saying they should not take this only when they are touring
but rest of the time it is OK. Doesn't make sense man.

-F

Agree with ya.

[mickey]

How come you agree with me?



Agree with ya.

friends can agree on some points besides intellectual differences..

[swami2x]

it's ones right to privacy. if someone does not want to disclose anything then it is his personal wish. cricketers can give details during their tour but they are not ready to give during their free time. some alternate solution has to brought to this.

That is the price a world class player needs to pay, if he really wants to play.. Come on man.. world's most respected players from various sports follow wada rules.. what the heck is wrong with indian players? Leave other sports .. Australian's, Engishmen, West Indies, Sri Lanka and even pakistani cricket players dont have a problem with wada.. then what the heck is wrong with our players. I guess most of them use drugs (Parties) when they are off the ground so they dont wanted to get tested positive. lolz

[newprouser]

indeed even australians cricket board have a problem with the wada rules

[swami2x]

I don't think dope can make much of difference in the way cricket as a game is played... Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Infact, they should allow dope for cricketers cuz the amount of cricket they play nowadays is too high... Maybe then, players like flintoff will reconsider their retirements from test cricket...

Lol.. are you smokin up something? So you want our player to start doing drugs and play.. then we will soon see marijuana break rather than tea break. Dude every game is a combination of strenth, skill, stamina. Some need physical strenth and stamina and some need mental. No game can be played without any of it missing.

indeed even australians cricket board have a problem with the wada rules

I just read that ausies started backing up indian's against wada rules.. even if they do.. you think its right? I wish ICC sack India and Australia from cric playing nations list if they refuse to sign agreement.

[itsmemad]

So you want our player to start doing drugs and play.. then we will soon see marijuana break rather than tea break. Dude every game is a combination of strenth, skill, stamina. Some need physical strenth and stamina and some need mental. No game can be played without any of it missing.

For your information, drugs like marijuana etc. don't do any good to an athelete. Sport drugs are different which are normally taken in consultation with someone who knows about medicines.

I agree that every game is a combination of the above mentioned things. But Cricket is a different game altogether. It's a misconception that you do not have to be very fit to play cricket. Fast bowlers, batsmen running between the wickets, and fielders chasing a ball have to be able to move suddenly, extremely quickly, and powerfully for brief amounts of time. This pattern of inactivity followed by dynamic movement carries a high risk of injury. Fast bowlers are particularly vulnerable if they are unfit or if their running and bowling technique is poor. Injuries of the shoulders, back, knees, and ankles are common. The risk of injury can be reduced if players are in good physical condition; if they warm up and perform stretching exercises before playing; and if they keep mobile during periods of relative inactivity.

No other game goes on for 5 long days (Test matches) or even 1 whole day (ODIs). So, it's natural that the players are on high risk of injury throughout the longer playing time. That's why I don't mind if Cricketers take medical drugs to keep themselves fit, reduce their rehabilitation time after an injury and lengthen their career. It's a pity that players of Flintoff's class are avoiding to play Test cricket so early because their body can't take the endurance anymore.

[swami2x]

For your information, drugs like marijuana etc. don't do any good to an athelete. Sport drugs are different which are normally taken in consultation with someone who knows about medicines.

I agree that every game is a combination of the above mentioned things. But Cricket is a different game altogether. It's a misconception that you do not have to be very fit to play cricket. Fast bowlers, batsmen running between the wickets, and fielders chasing a ball have to be able to move suddenly, extremely quickly, and powerfully for brief amounts of time. This pattern of inactivity followed by dynamic movement carries a high risk of injury. Fast bowlers are particularly vulnerable if they are unfit or if their running and bowling technique is poor. Injuries of the shoulders, back, knees, and ankles are common. The risk of injury can be reduced if players are in good physical condition; if they warm up and perform stretching exercises before playing; and if they keep mobile during periods of relative inactivity.

No other game goes on for 5 long days (Test matches) or even 1 whole day (ODIs). So, it's natural that the players are on high risk of injury throughout the longer playing time. That's why I don't mind if Cricketers take medical drugs to keep themselves fit, reduce their rehabilitation time after an injury and lengthen their career. It's a pity that players of Flintoff's class are avoiding to play Test cricket so early because their body can't take the endurance anymore.

Well.. I just gave a example like it will happen if our players started using drugs and our sports cell's approved this. I never said cricket does require one to be partially fit. One need to be prime in his health to play this sport. Now that again doesnt mean that our players start using drugs and steroids to keep them fit and play for longer times. This is against the spirit of sports.
We need natural and healthy competition between the players and that can only be achieved if we eliminate drugs from sports. Btw i respect flintoff for his timely out. Every player has a limit no one can play till there 50's. Indian players just dont want to quit coz its money maker sport!!

[itsmemad]

I'm not actually endorsing drug abuse in cricket. Infact, I'm quite happy with the current system of ICC, which randomly collects sample from players and punish or fine them if they are found guilty. Remember Shane Warne? Hez not the only example, there are many...

I don't want WADA in Cricket as it equates the game with other sports... When it's not! I've already explained why, in the previous post.

Flintoff was out of Cricket field for 2 years in last four years. I'm sure he must have taken some drugs to reduce the rehabilitation time. If WADA would have been in the picture, he could have spent more time off the field than he actually did. Flintoff is just an example.

Regarding Indian players point you raised, that's a completely different topic.

[mickey]

lets everyone dope and see who wins...







atlast its just the skills ...

[Luke Skywalker]

I'm not actually endorsing drug abuse in cricket. Infact, I'm quite happy with the current system of ICC, which randomly collects sample from players and punish or fine them if they are found guilty. Remember Shane Warne? Hez not the only example, there are many...

I don't want WADA in Cricket as it equates the game with other sports... When it's not! I've already explained why, in the previous post.

Flintoff was out of Cricket field for 2 years in last four years. I'm sure he must have taken some drugs to reduce the rehabilitation time. If WADA would have been in the picture, he could have spent more time off the field than he actually did. Flintoff is just an example.

Regarding Indian players point you raised, that's a completely different topic.

Cycling is much more about endurance & it had accepted Wada rules. So that point of yours don't apply that cricketers should dope to prolong their careers. In cycling you have to climb mountains & blah blah blah.

If doping start it will give advantage to rich players & it will not about natural endurance & immunity which sports persons have.

[itsmemad]

Being a cyclist in the past, I know that Cycling is 90% stamina sport. So, it's fair that Wada rules are accepted by them. Refer to my 1st post where I said, Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Apart from that, Cricket is a team game. Compare Cricket with team games; their duration and game play!

[mickey]

Being a cyclist in the past, I know that Cycling is 90% stamina sport. So, it's fair that Wada rules are accepted by them. Refer to my 1st post where I said, Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Apart from that, Cricket is a team game. Compare Cricket with team games; their duration and game play!

listen me what i am saying. Let all crickies dope and lets see who wins the one winning is the best by all means :tt2:

[itsmemad]

The game which come closest to compare with Cricket is American Baseball. I would like to inform people that it has not accepted WADA rules too. Like International Cricket Council (ICC), Major League Baseball (MLB) which governs the Baseball game in America, has an independent anti-doping programme.

The reason is simple, these games are certainly different from other games in the way they are played. They don't need to follow other sports until they feel that they can control the dope practices to the accepted levels.

[Luke Skywalker]

The game which come closest to compare with Cricket is American Baseball. I would like to inform people that it has not accepted WADA rules too. Like International Cricket Council (ICC), Major League Baseball (MLB) which governs the Baseball game in America, has an independent anti-doping programme.

The reason is simple, these games are certainly different from other games in the way they are played. They don't need to follow other sports until they feel that they can control the dope practices to the accepted levels.

That's why it is becoming less popular & had been kicked out of Olympics. If talking about skill in team sports Football requires more skill & after all hopla FIFA created to not accept they have to accept WADA rule. Any sport wanting to expand had to accept WADA rule now. Cricket has always been much cleaner than baseball. If it had to expand it will eventually accept WADA rule.
Sports is about natural ability not dopes.

PS: I can't recall but there was a player who himself confessed he used to take dopes in baseball.

Good point maddy you had raised. I myself acknowledge that. Your point are really carrying sound logic. Cricket is nearly equal in skills to baseball.

[mickey]

Cricket is a gentlemen's game...thats why it is out of Olympics..

[Luke Skywalker]

Cricket is a gentlemen's game...thats why it is out of Olympics..

It is not famous & played in much country. Not going to engage in more debates.

[swami2x]

Being a cyclist in the past, I know that Cycling is 90% stamina sport. So, it's fair that Wada rules are accepted by them. Refer to my 1st post where I said, Cricket is more about skills than stamina...

Apart from that, Cricket is a team game. Compare Cricket with team games; their duration and game play!

dude whats wrong with you. skill is zero if ones body aint in prime to play the sport!. Secondly what do you know about drugs? do you think that drugs only increase stamina and power? come'on there are several drugs out there that increase mental alertness, shorten reaction time. Now if you know a lil about cricket you know what it means for a cricket player!!

[Punch Farce]

dude whats wrong with you. skill is zero if ones body aint in prime to play the sport!. Secondly what do you know about drugs? do you think that drugs only increase stamina and power? come'on there are several drugs out there that increase mental alertness,shorten reaction time, . Now if you know a lil about cricket you know what it means for a cricket player!!

Could you please name some.

-F

[itsmemad]

That's why it is becoming less popular & had been kicked out of Olympics.

Lol.. Cricket as a game was played only once in 1900 Olympics.. WADA was not in place at that time... So no point of cricket being kicked out from Olympics. It was never really part of it.

Anyway differences are bound to occur on this topic. I guess I've made enough efforts to put my point across. It's kinda saturated for me. You guyz carry on.

Cheers!

[swami2x]

Could you please name some.

-F

1. Anabolic steroids ( There are 100's of roid that causes those effects )
2. Amphetamine
3. Adderall

Just to name a few.

[Punch Farce]

1. Anabolic steroids ( There are 100's of roid that causes those effects )
2. Amphetamine
3. Adderall

Just to name a few.

Are these the drugs banned by MLB and WADA?

-F

[swami2x]

Are these the drugs banned by MLB and WADA?

-F

Wada Yes. and aint we talking here about cricket?:hammer: