Thread: Opinion ~ Are we misusing our rep powers ?

Just to clarify.... I'm not taking any of your comments as personal, and I expect the same in return. All i'm talking about, is IBF members in general !

NP was it for me ?

come on buddy i know how you are & need no advice.

I used only my threads as examples because, it doesnt sound good pointing on others threads. Thats all. No personal feelings

Originally Posted by farce

NPR, Rep'd you for bringing this topic up.

-F

thanks farce. Please give you opinion & Vote

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

NP was it for me ?

come on buddy i know how you are & need no advice.

I used only my threads as examples because, it doesnt sound good pointing on others threads. Thats all. No personal feelings

No, yaar just in general.... I mean like everyone is using words like 'humble' , 'don't be offended' , 'dont take it seriously' etc, so......

Another important point that i missed is , repping members WHO congratulated us on OUR achivements.thats obviously not good idea(and yea, even I did it once).

I feel its Ok to rep on their achivement though, thats well deserved.

Originally Posted by siddharth

And it takes me over 2 weeks to rep the same person.

Any thread can be given repo.I think in another thread j4k has already explain the matter that every member is not technical person that mean they will never get repo.But one thing I can say that every body can set their own parameter that which type of post they will give repo for me I spread repo almost each regular member and very few new member because I feel that by receiving of reputation point user may be involve more in IBB.
I think not only me most of the regular members are also spreading their repo regularly.Nothing wrong in that.

And it takes me over 2 weeks to rep the same person.

But i can spread repo twice to same user within two days

Originally Posted by newprouser

Another important point that i missed is , repping members WHO congratulated us on OUR achievements.thats obviously not good idea(and yea, even I did it once).

I feel its Ok to rep on their achievement though, thats well deserved.

NPU if some action is taken after this thread then my rep count would be drastically reduced.

Off topic:When i was new to these forums i did not know about these rep system and all and it hardly mattered to me.But looking how repos are treated even i have changed.OMG damn this repo thing

I only rep threads which i find is very good .... not necessarily technical

i think the rep restriction more than controls my rep-ing frequency

Rep should not be a give and take policy.
Give rep if the post is really useful. Not as an obligation.

Originally Posted by siddharth

NPU if some action is taken after this thread then my rep count would be drastically reduced.

And you wouldn't be the only one either ....

Chill bro, nothing like that will happen !

Off topic:When i was new to these forums i did not know about these rep system and all and it hardly mattered to me.But looking how repos are treated even i have changed.OMG damn this repo thing

Thats the main issue ! As long as we treat repo counts as means of being superior, this issue will never get solved ! once we don't give importance to it, and we stop bragging with each other about it, I think it will hardly matter to anyone !

Lil bit busy..Will reply soon

Originally Posted by newprouser

And you wouldn't be the only one either ....

Thats the main issue ! As long as we treat repo counts as means of being superior, this issue will never get solved ! once we don't give importance to it, and we stop bragging with each other about it, I think it will hardly matter to anyone !

Impossible with human nature as it is...

There is a solution to this: Only you should be able to see your rep power and no one else.
That could cut down the showing off threads and rep power weightage debates.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

Any thread can be given repo.I think in another thread j4k has already explain the matter that every member is not technical person that mean they will never get repo.But one thing I can say that every body can set their own parameter that which type of post they will give repo for me I spread repo almost each regular member and very few new member because I feel that by receiving of reputation point user may be involve more in IBB.
I think not only me most of the regular members are also spreading their repo regularly.Nothing wrong in that.

But i can spread repo twice to same user within two days

You have chosen a different option in the poll, than wat you said. was it a mistake ? I guess the options 2&4 are same.

Originally Posted by 18lama

Impossible with human nature as it is...

I dunno, if people are willing,it might be.... but obviously everone must agree, only then will it work out.

There is a solution to this: Only you should be able to see your rep power and no one else.
That could cut down the showing off threads and rep power weightage debates.

i think that was the case when i joined the forum. Either stats was not there or the reps were not displayed.

Originally Posted by siddharth

NPU if some action is taken after this thread then my rep count would be drastically reduced.

Yes then my rep point also to be 0 because i did not have any single useful post in IBB

When i was new to these forums i did not know about these rep system and all and it hardly mattered to me.But looking how repos are treated even i have changed.OMG damn this repo thing :rolleyes

Exactly same for me also.
When i was know about reputation system that time initially i thought that I will spread repo only quality post but latter I realize that lot of quality post did not get enough repo point specially few section of the forum because such section is not much popular in the forum i thought that is also injustice to those user.That's why I have decided that regular participation in IBB in any type of topic is also the big achievement so i spread repo to all regular member of the forum.

Yes, Rupu has got a point there. And most probably, Rupu's repos are one of the main things that has brought the figures (and the rat of increasing of repo points) up. :thumbup1:

P.S: I had already given a repo to NP while posting my first reply.

rename the current rep power to rep rating
and everyone gets a rep power of 1.

-F

First of all, congrats to NPU for starting this thread and poll.

There is a very fine line difference between options 2 and 3. I voted for '2'.

Now coming to discussing the topic on awarding reputations. I have observed the following:

a) Many people are awarding reputations for jokes and humour. This is wrong in my opinion. OK. You made someone or many laugh. But this is essentially cut/paste from another source. I urge members to stop this practice.

b) Many cut/paste articles are getting reputations too. Again, do such articles deserve a reputation? The author did take some time to cut/paste, probably format, etc. But in my opinion, such articles do not deserve reputations.

I am not saying that authors of such articles should stop this. No indeed!!! This could continue. But other people should stop awarding reputations to such threads.

c) Many reputations are given for no reason. This is already mentined earlier. Someone gave me a repo and I am returning a favour. Please DO RETURN the favour but have a reason to do so.

d) Sometimes reputations are given on reaching a milestone, e.g., reaching nnnn posts. I have undecided opinion on this.

e) Some (regular) members do not give reputations. This is a bad practice. Such members in turn do not deserve reputations is all I will say.

There have been some comments on Admin/Mods regulating awarded reputations. Well, mods have no power to change anything. And I do not think that they should have those kind of powers - it will be imposing on free speech.

Finally, as I said earlier, people should deploy a very judicious use of their reputation power. Before giving any reputation, think carefully before answering the question: does the post really deserve a reputation?

Originally Posted by just4kix

c) Many reputations are given for no reason. This is already mentined earlier. Someone gave me a repo and I am returning a favour. Please DO RETURN the favour but have a reason to do so.

Thanks uncle !


Agree with the point which I have quoted above.

Morover, I think the 4th option is unnecessary, since its already divided into option 2 and 3. Unfortunately, the votes of people who have already voted for option 4 cannot be transferred.

Originally Posted by just4kix

b) Many cut/paste articles are getting reputations too. Again, do such articles deserve a reputation? The author did take some time to cut/paste, probably format, etc. But in my opinion, such articles do not deserve reputations.

My views are different in this issue.

With the possible exception of day-today news,jokes,facts, no other articles should be copy pasted AS SUCH. Such a thing will only urge more people to copy-paste. But if the member contributes something to the original article (text formatting isn't contribution), then its ok to do so.

For eg, if there's a complex article on how to configure a BB modem on internet. Now a member can copy the technical commands etc as such, and give the explanation in layman terms, it will add value to the original article and also prove more usefull, than direct copying !

@ J4K
please go through my post in this thread and comment on it (when in leisure )

http://www.indiabroadband.net/sugges...tml#post172090 (Opinion ~ Are we misusing our rep powers ?)

I agree with NPU that we are exchanging/trading too much Repo recently. The recent increase in Repo points, Repo powers, post counts etc has been due to very active participation of many members. I dont think the forum has been so active ever before. So, as members participate more frequently and actively, all these stats are bound to increase. Its not that only 1 or 2 members are ranking high in the repo chart. Another reason of increase in Repo of regular members is the increased Rep power of most regulars recently. I have chosen option no.3 in the poll. Not only threads, but good posts can also be awarded Repo.

1) what is the main idea behind exhanging and trading of repo!! some user gives me repo - i return the favour to him. but how? I have seen many members gives repos to any post at all to return the Repo. Repo exchange is not bad, but when somebody Reps you, Give him Repo on some good thread created by that member recently or wait for him to create a good thread. Rather than returning Repo on any post of a member quickly find a good post/thread of his and give him Repo there.

2) Direct copy pasting an article from other site is not a good practise at all. If you want to share some good article from other side you can do it like this: http://www.indiabroadband.net/invest...l-article.html (Becoming financially stable - wonderful article) . Whats the point in copy-pasting the entire article and providing the source link no matter how well the Text formatting has been done. As NPU said, copying jokes and latest news are ok. even copy-pasting a single article once in a while is ok. But, some member(s) only post such copy-pasted articles and nothing else. When you read some good article - do some research. read 3-4 articles on the same topic and compile one thread yourself with parts of copied text from those articles and some of your own thought as well.

- Repeated Copy-pasting of articles from other sites should be stopped.
- Members should not award Repo to such threads.

3) Some of the chit-chat/spam posts are also very funny/interesting/intellectual sometimes. Repo can be awarded in such rare and special cases. I dont see anythng wrong here.

4) We all should occasionlly award Repos to techies like essbebe, superprash etc even if we dont recieve any direct help from them.

5) Very Good jokes once in a while can be awarded Repos. There is no limit to the free joke sites and other jokes sources on the net. But most of the jokes dont make you laugh as such. If some members finds a very good joke and shares it, He/She can be awarded Repo.

6) Again I am reminding one thing - Thread Rating. Good threads should be rated. This can be another way of showing appreciation other than giving Reps.

7) Yes, I also agree that Demanding/asking for Repo is not good. I also have been guilty of this. Dont ask for Repo, but be linient enough to award repos to regulars so that someone doesnt needs to ask for Repo.

Originally Posted by just4kix

b) Many cut/paste articles are getting reputations too. Again, do such articles deserve a reputation? The author did take some time to cut/paste, probably format, etc. But in my opinion, such articles do not deserve reputations.

I am not saying that authors of such articles should stop this. No indeed!!! This could continue. But other people should stop awarding reputations to such threads.

Not all readers realize that is a copy pasted article when it has been formatted nicely and not been put in quote/unquote tags. Most people will get the feeling that it has been written by that member. This brings in undeserved Repo. I think Copy-pastes of something good once in a while is OK. but, dont make it the only way to post in the forum. One out of your 15-20 threads can be a copy-paste. Nobody minds that. But if all your threads are copy-pastes - it is not acceptable.

As I said earlier, even while copying something - add something from your side. add something useful from some other sources/articles and complie a good thread. Dont copy an entire article as it is from a site and give the source link.

Another point: Try to reply to threads in your own words. Get involved in that discussion but sudden copy-pasted replies in the middle of some discussion is very annoying sometimes.

Well Well Well, Hot topic, "Bhai pyaar batoge to pyaar milega aur nahi batoge to inkaar milega".. Alright IMO the repo system should be left as it is.. Whenever i feel any post, thread entertaining or informative i give repo, Even in Jokes And Humor section, If some particular joke made me :lol:, So why not giving repo to that person...

According to me one should not ask for repo, I know i did that couple of times(Ho jaata hai), But try not to do this again, If member think you deserve the repo then he/she will give the repo...

And obviously repo system should not limited to Tech Section, Of course we're not judging who is more technical person by seeing repo...

Originally Posted by newprouser

Thats the main issue ! As long as we treat repo counts as means of being superior, this issue will never get solved ! once we don't give importance to it, and we stop bragging with each other about it, I think it will hardly matter to anyone !

Why and who treats Repo counts as means of being superior!? I never think so. Probably all these discussions about Reputation points is going on because some people think so(that repo count is a mean of being superior). There are many members who are superior to us in every respect but have less Repo points coz they dont care it much. Ex- Admin. I dont agree at all that Repo count is a mean of being superior in the forum. :no: I never think so.

Originally Posted by gothic_coder

Well Well Well, Hot topic, "Bhai pyaar batoge to pyaar milega aur nahi batoge to inkaar milega".. Alright IMO the repo system should be left as it is.. Whenever i feel any post, thread entertaining or informative i give repo, Even in Jokes And Humor section, If some particular joke made me :lol:, So why not giving repo to that person...

According to me one should not ask for repo, I know i did that couple of times(Ho jaata hai), But try not to do this again, If member think you deserve the repo then he/she will give the repo...

And obviously repo system should not limited to Tech Section, Of course we're not judging who is more technical person by seeing repo...

Very Well said Ashish. :thumbup:

Also someone (I guess rupu) made one point that we all are active members or i would say super active members of this forum, Rupu give repo to every member who achieves some accolades/Milestones, This doesn't mean that rupu need return favour (repo) from that person, He never ask for it, But if you're courteous(Which you all are :tt2 then you will give repo(I do) to rupu (I don't see any problem in thatr)

oye yeh sab kyaaa pagal pan hai.....

i dont think soo ....common we all know tht whom to give n not give repos.....

god u guys ve made this thread discussing this of 5 pages????

Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi

oye yeh sab kyaaa pagal pan hai.....

i dont think soo ....common we all know tht whom to give n not give repos.....

god u guys ve made this thread discussing this of 5 pages????

:lol: Baat ka Batangad banana to Hamari Aadat hai..

a) Many people are awarding reputations for jokes and humour. This is wrong in my opinion. OK. You made someone or many laugh. But this is essentially cut/paste from another source. I urge members to stop this practice.

No i am not agree with kix
I feel joke and humourous reply is not easy and this type of post attract more member to involve in this forum so i feel even such type of post contribute this forum.

b) Many cut/paste articles are getting reputations too. Again, do such articles deserve a reputation? The author did take some time to cut/paste, probably format, etc. But in my opinion, such articles do not deserve reputations.

No1.Generally lots of new thread and reply create in a single day is it possible to check every post in all over internet before spreading repo.
No2. Copy/paste thing is very controversial thing may be I will explain my point in another thread.
No3 I was register in this forum almost 10 month ago and this is my 1409th post although i never forget to login one single day since December'08 (most probably from 10-12 December) I think my post number is little low because I read almost 80-85% of thread in this forum and spend my time to read the other post.I realize that lots of good thread in non popular section did not get repo which they deserve.
No4 After creating good thread few people ask for repo few people never ask that also make difference in repo point.
No5 I saw in most section (may be not all member will agree with me) that many user read thread starter topic and reply then only few people read all the reply in that thread so that's also unfair with the replier post.(exceptional Broadband section where thread starter is in problem and replier gives valuable tips)

Finally, as I said earlier, people should deploy a very judicious use of their reputation power. Before giving any reputation, think carefully before answering the question: does the post really deserve a reputation?

No5.Now also if anyone create two good thread back to back that time to give the repo to same user twice user need to spread the reputation to other user that time also i saw may be few other ordinary post get repo or another member who create two good thread he did not get proper justice (If reputation equal to judiciary).
If i spared repo according to post quality as a judge then i should read all the post in all section and if I miss single one that mean also it is unfair or injustice to that member so this is not easy to say i spread repo only in good thread may be lot of good thread i missed.

@rupu

Why that signature? "Request: Please do not spread +ve reputation to me"