Alert: Reducing Number of Active Users!

The Number of Active members in the Forum was about 5000 till some days(about a month) ago. I have been noticing that that the number of active users in decreasing day by day although the total number of members is increasing.

Current Active Members: 4,133

I have noticed a strange problem while logging in to the forum. Same problem is with the women's forum also.

Most regular members dont logout often - so dont notice this.

The forum is popular by the name of indiabroadband.net

Many people browse sites without the www in the url.

Now ... When trying to log into "indiabroadband.net" ... the login doesnt works. the same page(logged out) is shown even when a user tries to log in. This can be very confusing and can drive away some new or less active users.

The login works fine when logging in to "www.indiabroadband.net".

This can be a reason of the reducing number of Active members.

Admin ... Plz solve the issue. Time to put your Webmaster Hat on

I have and am facing this issue since long. even when logging in from "www.indiabroadband.net"
even after logging in the log-in page is again displayed. but then I click on "today's post" and the page changes to logged in status.

Originally Posted by panchabhut

I have and am facing this issue since long. even when logging in from "www.indiabroadband.net"
even after logging in the log-in page is again displayed. but then I click on "today's post" and the page changes to logged in status.

Yes ... clicking on any link does it. when we click on any link - the url contains "www". Actually when we try to login to http://indiabroadband.net ... The login work actually happens but still shows the logged out page. After clicking any link of the forum ... the logged in page is shown.

Originally Posted by saurav_k

Now ... When trying to log into "indiabroadband.net" ... the login doesnt works. the same page(logged out) is shown even when a user tries to log in. This can be very confusing and can drive away some new or less active users.

The login works fine when logging in to "www.indiabroadband.net".

I have faced that problem also.

It is the way the cookie is stored in your computer. The cookies is always stored with the "www" prefix.

When logging in without prefixing 'www', it cannot find the cookie and hence asks to login again.

All internal links are to the website with the 'www' prefix. Hence when you click, 'today's posts', the cookie is used and you are taken to the website with "logged in" status.

This was explained by Admin some time ago.

Bottomline: Always login to URL with the "www" prefix. You will never have this problem.

Ya. That we can understand. But, it can be confusing for new members. http://indiabroadband.net/ can be redirected to http://www.indiabroadband.net/ to solve the issue. Whenever someone tries to open http://indiabroadband.net/ it should be redirected to http://www.indiabroadband.net .

@j4k

What do you think is the reason behind reducing number of Active Users!?

but I'm having this problem even when logging in with "www" prefix

Originally Posted by panchabhut

but I'm having this problem even when logging in with "www" prefix

That might be some problem with the cookie settings of your browser. Make sure cookies are enabled.

@j4k

What do you think is the reason behind reducing number of Active Users!?

It may not be a problem at all. Just a bug or the way the VB software calculates active members.

Number of Active Members now: 4,106 ... its decreasing constantly

Active Members Now: 3,894

Saurav you are the only one facing this problem. But as for me,when i see that i have not got logged in(but i did)i click in any forum or on indiabroadband link and i get inside. I think people feel they are not logged in but they actually are.

Originally Posted by mail2sc

Saurav you are the only one facing this problem.

:no:

I am not facing any problem. This problem can be confusing for new members. Thats why I posted it here.

I meant its not just you. But i cant edit my post cause writing from mobile.


P.s: this excuse rocks.

:lol: A single word can change the entire meaning ..

yep.
like the difference between,
He works hard
and
He hardly works

The reason you see reducing number of active members is that I have made a few changes to the forum and one of them is that guest visitors can now view unlimited number of pages without having to register so the number of new members that register every day has come down by more then 60% and that takes away a chunk out of the active members numbers..

I just thought that its not a very good idea to make some one register just to view the threads as those people who register that way dont ever participate in any of the discussions and there is no use them being a member here as they would never be active... So now if anyone rgisters here it will be out of their own will and not a compulsion...

What do you guys say shall we keep it like this or change it back to what it was like before?

Originally Posted by Admin

The reason you see reducing number of active members is that I have made a few changes to the forum and one of them is that guest visitors can now view unlimited number of pages without having to register so the number of new members that register every day has come down by more then 60% and that takes away a chunk out of the active members numbers..

I just thought that its not a very good idea to make some one register just to view the threads as those people who register that way dont ever participate in any of the discussions and there is no use them being a member here as they would never be active... So now if anyone rgisters here it will be out of their own will and not a compulsion...

What do you guys say shall we keep it like this or change it back to what it was like before?

yes i agree with this!
forum must be as open as possible!

Thats a good idea Admin. I was thinking the same from very long time but didnt care to tell it as everybody here was thinking that more number of registering is good for the forum.

Now allowing them to see it will help a lot in saving the diskspace of their usernames also. Now if they register they will post something here and thats really good for the forum. You can even say that if a member doesnot login for 3 or 6 months then his ID will be deleted. Ok lets think about this later.

For now what you have done is a very good move. :clap:

Thanks Rlove and Kiran.

Its our pleasure to help you Admin

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

You can even say that if a member doesnot login for 3 or 6 months then his ID will be deleted. Ok lets think about this later.

many ppl do take long leaves, so they r best left as such

Originally Posted by newprouser

mamy ppl do take long leaves, so they best left as such

no not like that, i said that only for registering and going people not for regular members. we can see a lot of people who post just 1 or two posts and disappear for them that rule is. Not for regular posters.

Ya its difficult to differentiate between regular & non regular, will think of some other way

Overall a good idea. We want the forum to have more members but want them to be active also.

Very Good Idea Admin. :thumbup: I didnt knew about the restriction for unregistered users before. Your way of thinking is good.

Yes.
Really a good move, Admin.

Good move

Many do not bother to register for viewing one or two threads. It will help us avoid the traffic diverted to other sites. We have many tempting threads, they will register to answer if come across any.

its not so difficult anyways, jus disabling IBf's cookie will have the same effect !

Are unregistered users allowed to see all pictures ?

I strongly feel that compelling one to post by banning for not posting will be too harsh. It is better to be silent than write anything silly. Sharing of knowledge is good and alright and I believe in that too. You can consider banning if one does not post for a longer period like say 1 year or more. All cannot be players and many are comfortable to be watchers. I prefer to be a watcher and I shall definitely post when I am required and feel comfortable in the topic.

raghulallihari

thanks for ur opinion raghulallihari, we do hope you will contribute whenever you can.

i think mods banned some new members like jittu maybe cause of this... i dont know why but i felt like this..

Originally Posted by raghulallihari

I strongly feel that compelling one to post by banning for not posting will be too harsh. It is better to be silent than write anything silly. Sharing of knowledge is good and alright and I believe in that too. You can consider banning if one does not post for a longer period like say 1 year or more. All cannot be players and many are comfortable to be watchers. I prefer to be a watcher and I shall definitely post when I am required and feel comfortable in the topic.

raghulallihari

Nobody has been banned for not posting. Only those who spammed or posted advertisements have been banned. Their posts were deleted as well.

Originally Posted by just4kix

Nobody has been banned for not posting. Only those who spammed or posted advertisements have been banned. Their posts were deleted as well.

you gotta logout of IBF to see why he said that !

correct NP.

Admin has written that the guest will be banned on the home page

Hi Unregistered , We have noticed that you have never posted anything on the forum... do you realise that the content you read here is posted by people like you who believe in spreading the knowledge. Please post something in the threads of your interest or may be open a new thread with your query in an appropriate section. Failing to post anything for some more time will result in a permanent ban from this website.ThanksAdmin

Just found this

yes its been from some time now, even a few members have pm'ed me to ask whats this ? and is Admin really going to ban them.

How can admin ban unregistered users?

good question onllly Admin can ans it

What I said was that (regardless of the message posted above), no one has been banned because of zero posts, inactivity etc.

I know this because I can see the list of banned users.

Whether id's have been automatically deleted, I cannot say - but on the whole I do not think that, that is the case too.

Is it possible to make the list of banned users public?

Originally Posted by 18lama

Is it possible to make the list of banned users public?

Will have to take Admin's permission for that. But I do not see that as a problem because they appear with "Banned" title anyway.

I was asking it to be made permanently public but there should not be any visible links on any page.

it would be good if you could just enter a correct url to see the page, that way new members won't wander off to the ban logs.

Originally Posted by 18lama

I was asking it to be made permanently public but there should not be any visible links on any page.

it would be good if you could just enter a correct url to see the page, that way new members won't wander off to the ban logs.

At the moment, the banned user list appears in Moderator Control Panel only.

It will need some web programming to make the list public via a php page. Only Admin can do such changes to website.

Interesting suggetion though.

You guys are taking it wrong... that message about id will be deleted and all only applies to those who have zero number of posts ...

If some one has an id and has only made 1 post in the last 4 years well his/her id will not be touched... we have menbers from 2006 who have never posted anything and just never came back... so I am planning to prune the members list and only have those members who have got atleast 1 post to their credit and those who are more then 6 months old members and still do not have a post will get deleted...

Is it not fair enough? If you disagree please shout and we can talk about this

I think the policy to disable membership for long dormant members (membership more than 365 days, zero posts) is fair.

Nothing more will be heard on this.
The central committee of the Soviet union has felt and come up to this decision that banned users list must be made public by the General Secretary, State duma, and Supreme Soviet. And that the Premier should post the report based on it.

But Adminji, How can you ban unregistered members?

Hi Unregistered , We have noticed that you have never posted anything on the forum... do you realise that the content you read here is posted by people like you who believe in spreading the knowledge. Please post something in the threads of your interest or may be open a new thread with your query in an appropriate section. Failing to post anything for some more time will result in a permanent ban from this website.ThanksAdmin

:lol:

Originally Posted by saurav_k

But Adminji, How can you ban unregistered members?

:lol:

:lol: sounds funny as such, but i tho he was refering to ppl who visit often but stay unregistered n don't post anything, and that their Ip's would be banned...

Admin might like this

I have one more Q: what about people with more than one profile? Most forums don't allow more than one a/c per person. what is the general policy on this forum about that?

We donot have any policy on that - rather a commandment.

Thou shalt not create duplicate id's.

@Endless_Sky/Rupu1983, we do not have a problem that you are a duplicate; but you can ask Admin to convert all your ES authored posts into the other user-id and delete ES user-id.

Ok my post was not aimed at Rupu or any one else. I also have a duplicate ID, which I seldom use. I was asking because of that.

I am eagerly waiting for Admin to delete 1 ID i want that ID but a great person has created in 2008 and still not posted a single post :32:

Admin please inform when are you going to delete those accounts

Oh no i gues Admin wont delete it as it has been created on 11-24-08

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

I am eagerly waiting for Admin to delete 1 ID i want that ID but a great person has created in 2008 and still not posted a single post :32:

Admin please inform when are you going to delete those accounts

Oh no i gues Admin wont delete it as it has been created on 11-24-08

of course admin will delete in this year!

Originally Posted by Rlove

of course in this year!

really wow man you are a wizard.

Duplicate Id is so meaningless - for the regular user. I mean, what can you do with a duplicate id, except to reply to your own posts.

During the last competition, we suspected that some people used duplicate id's to increase post count. You may ask how that helps? The reason is the forum has implemented double (consecutive) post auto-merge option. As you know, if you post immediately after your previous post, the two posts get merged into one. So the trick is to have someone post in between. So a user created a duplicate id, and posted a meaningless post like a 'smiley', 'thank you', etc. and then posted from his own (real) id.

Other than the above, I do not find any reason why people should have a duplicate id. Maybe some people created multiple id's just for fun. But I am thinking that they are not using all at the same time.

Hence we have no policy/rule for duplicate id. But as I said, the Admin/Mods have the right to ban any member with or without reason. But as duplicate id's cause no harm (except if they are avatar's of Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde), there is a tolerance.

If someone wants duplicate id's deleted, send PM to Admin/Mods. Mods cannot delete an id, only ban the user. Admin can do both.

Just for clarification from my side.

I was asking 1 ID to be deleted because i want my username (of this account) changed. Some months back i had asked smoothie to do it, but he said as a person is already registered he cannot do it.

Smoothvibes (or me) cannot change user-name; only Admin can. But what he replied meant the same thing.

Ya no issues . I had left hop of getting that ID but now Admin gave me a "kiran" of hope

your own name is good KK, otherwise you can settle for emperer ?