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    We are discussing Forum Etiquette and rules here ...
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    works fine with me too..

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    I have changed mine too!!
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    ok

    can i use image of 400x60 as signature

    My signature complies with your terms and conditions......
    Its file size is 6.72 Kb and image size 400x60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOBOT View Post
    ok

    can i use image of 400x60 as signature

    My signature complies with your terms and conditions......
    Its file size is 6.72 Kb and image size 400x60.
    I dont think thats a very good idea... I dont mind your signature but if we allow you you would see thousands more cropping up and as you can understand we cannot have double standards.

    I request you to please keep it to text and put two links with anchor text please.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I dont think thats a very good idea... I dont mind your signature but if we allow you you would see thousands more cropping up and as you can understand we cannot have double standards.

    I request you to please keep it to text and put two links with anchor text please.

    Thanks
    Ok friend
    I know its attractive.........
    .....i will change it
    Last edited by SEOBOT; 25th September 2008 at 01:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOBOT View Post
    ok

    can i use image of 400x60 as signature

    My signature complies with your terms and conditions......
    Its file size is 6.72 Kb and image size 400x60.
    Why use an image, when you have been given an option to provide a link, theres no point in making your link image big and annoying. At least this site allows you to post your links, unlike other sites, you shouldn't really violate things!

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    ok just4kix i parked my bike outside now.. ok

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    @SEOBOT,

    YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT I SAID. I KNOW WHAT I SAID AND I AM WILLING TO STAND BY THE SAME. NO NEED FOR XML OR OTHER PROOF.

    Your signature contained a graphic that contained a link to PTC site. I had not checked the link before and said "Yes. Signature is OK".

    But you must comply to all the rules.

    Advertising rules are in conjunction to all other rules regarding all forum activity including posts and signatures

    Signatures cannot link to sites that generate revenue for others. Admin reported that your signature links to a PTC site. If you can provide evidence that your links are not PTC sites then we can reconsider.

    Rules are fairly clear. You are twisting the rules around to find a loopholes. And I suggest that you go thru each and every forum rule in the FAQ. If you are not happy with the rules, please explain why and we can discuss.
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    Hi all,

    Let's respect each other. Even though, we may have done some crime in the past. I'm sorry I have reported one of the above posts. Looking for a better understanding in the future...

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    SEOBOT i can understand your anger and problem but if you have faced any problem with any rule then please discuss it in a polite manner just4kix is our senior member and i am sure there is a reason behind his such act, please discuss it politely with him and still if you are not satisfied then you can speak to admin about it. I am sure they will help you, just calm down mate

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    A simple signature like mine will avoid any confusion...

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    Banned.

    There is only so much one can take.

    I asked you not to put that banner in your signature : http://www.indiabroadband.net/sugges...html#post46575

    And you replied to me saying ok will take it off here : http://www.indiabroadband.net/sugges...html#post46670


    Where does all this argument come from?

    We have another rule... we do not allow complaints against mods or admin in the forum... Use a PM.

    I will not waste any of my time on this.
    Last edited by Admin; 26th September 2008 at 05:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    AHH!! I din't like his posts anyways!!
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    Edit: Oh, I posted too late...
    @seobot,
    Do not assume that I am quiet because you think I am guilty.

    We do not bring personal attacks in a public forum. If you have a complaint, the way to resolve this is bilaterally and then take it to admin. I have said so on the PM. Yet you think that by posting publicly you think that you will be a hero and I the villain. I tried to take a dignified stance hoping that we can resolve the matter peacefully between ourselves.

    Now most regretfully, I must bring it in open.

    You were first advised on PMs and then subsequently warned not to link to sites that contain advertised content. It may not strictly be PTC but still an advertised content.

    I do not make the rules on that. I am a moderator and I do not own this site.

    Admin had deleted your signature and also sent you a warning PM. But you went back on this. That is why you received your first infraction. When you abused me publicly, you received your second one.

    Yet again you are still breaking the rule by providing three external links. Do the rules not specifically state 2 external links only?

    This forum existed and was popular long before I joined. I joined the forum because the search I was conducting brought this site as the first hit. This site will continue to grow with or without you or for that matter me. And we certainly do not need your blessings.

    Having said all that, you are still valued as a member who, I feel, can contribute by your knowledge in your field of expertise. But rules apply to everyone including me. I have not broken any rule. I do not hand out infractions just because I have got the power. Before handling your infractions, I thought over for 30 mins. But you are behaving like a 14 year old. Please grow up.
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    I will find a way to put those restrictions in place automatically to avoid such arguments in future..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Banned.

    We have another rule... we do not allow complaints against mods or admin in the forum... Use a PM.
    Banned :14:
    One more shot out of boundry

    I support your decision to BAN him, i never liked his posts as he was bit irritating

    fine can i send you a PM now, want to complaint again you admin :lol:

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    I would have never banned his if he would have been a little polite on all this ... He sent me a PM abusing Just4kix and he keeps on lying in his post ... I had even sent him PM's about his signature in the past and also as mentioned in the earlier post I requested him on th forums as well but he just choose to ignore everything and go his own way.

    How is your tata wimax ?

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    From SEABOT's postings I always used to get a feeling that hez member or Admin of a similar rival forum... Was just here to sniff things around... In the end he confirmed it by his posts on this thread...

    U did right by banning him Admin... he did everything intentionally... just to create confusions in our minds....

    Y don't u delete his posts as well?

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    @admin Wimax is working good at home and i am back in UK, Check my IP

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    Yeh I see You are in UK

    Quote Originally Posted by itsmemad View Post
    From SEABOT's postings I always used to get a feeling that hez member or Admin of a similar rival forum... Was just here to sniff things around... In the end he confirmed it by his posts on this thread...

    U did right by banning him Admin... he did everything intentionally... just to create confusions in our minds....

    Y don't u delete his posts as well?
    He will come back here to argue on this for sure... and if we delete this he will lie about all this episode.

    Its Just4kix's thread he can delete it all if he wants to I guess all of you would be witness to what all he said I also have his PM full of stuff which he shouldnt have said.

    Your take Just4kix.. delete it or keep it
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    No. No need to delete anything. I believe that I tried to deal fairly with him. I am not too concerned about abuses. They did not affect me at all. I try to be friendly to all - guess you can't win all.
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    well said kix,

    i support u

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    What a waste of time SEOBOT was I could have read a few jokes in the time I spent on him...

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    SEO Bot was really annoying and used to think he was greater than th rest, glad hes gone, no place for idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preeti_20 View Post
    SEO Bot was really annoying and used to think he was greater than th rest, glad hes gone, no place for idiots!

    We kids used to joke around during school-time that if a girl abuses a guy with her favorite abusive word idiot... she means-

    I - I
    D - Do
    I - Ishq
    O - Only
    T - Tumse

    Thank God u used idiots!!:stuart:

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    yes this is true his posts always irritated me more than anything

    but this place is free of stupids now

    @itsmemad what is the full form of STUPID

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothvibes View Post
    @itsmemad what is the full form of STUPID
    I can't tell u the full form of STUPID on this forum... Its kinda censored...

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    :14:, i bet that made itsmemad thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preeti_20 View Post
    :14:, i bet that made itsmemad thinking!
    Really?

    I took time cuz I was solving a tech issue...

    I replied as soon as I read it...
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    Oh! ugly ... that reply from bot ... telling a mod to #### off ! ......


    Well i ll take this time to educate u people about the most used word in the English language if you dont mind ...

    F-Fornication
    U-Under the
    C-Consent of the
    K-King

    This is the original meaning of this word ... its not offensive actually and has an interesting story behind it ......

    In ancient England Whenever anybody wanted to have S** with an unmarried partner ... they had to explicitly get permission from the King of England and Stick a poster On their door saying "Fornication under the consent of the king" while Doing it inside ....

    Very creative people those ? :stuart:

    Lets just forget about that episode ... ok ... few bad apples should nt spoil the pie ...yeah ?

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    ohh wow what a great and informative post Eddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Well i ll take this time to educate u people about the most used word in the English language if you dont mind ...

    F-Fornication
    U-Under the
    C-Consent of the
    K-King

    This is the original meaning of this word ... its not offensive actually and has an interesting story behind it ......

    In ancient England Whenever anybody wanted to have S** with an unmarried partner ... they had to explicitly get permission from the King of England and Stick a poster On their door saying "Fornication under the consent of the king" while Doing it inside ....

    Very creative people those ? :stuart:
    Bulls-eye!! Wot timing man... I knew about this Fornication thing... but u just hit it at right time!

    therez 1 more... ISDN Incompatible shitty digital nonsense..

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    oops ...missed this thread before ... i thought signatures can be anything if it complies with the signature making page's constraints otherwise it would be blocked anyway ...

    .. is my current signature ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    oops ...missed this thread before ... i thought signatures can be anything if it complies with the signature making page's constraints otherwise it would be blocked anyway ...

    .. is my current signature ok?
    Well, it is not OK. I had noticed that long ago but decided not to make an issue out of it. A big signature is many times irritating to many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Well, it is not OK. I had noticed that long ago but decided not to make an issue out of it. A big signature is many times irritating to many.
    what changes do i need to make?? do i need to shorten my pic resolution?

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    You could either eliminate the GIF/JPG and/or cut down on links.
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    not a single link in my signature ... or maybe u mean something else which i am not getting ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    not a single link in my signature ... or maybe u mean something else which i am not getting ...

    He must have got confused with these as I did ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser View Post
    He must have got confused with these as I did ...
    Correct. My bad. I confused these as links.
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    Forgive me, if I am going off topic.

    This is first time ever, when I have read such a lenghy post.
    After completing it, I haven't felt that "I have wasted my time".

    I want to thank you Prassana for taking out time and writing down such a valuable things. you are truely an asset to the forum.

    What you said, was 100% Quality.
    hats off.

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    Thank you. It took me one hour to put my thoughts together. Any suggestions?
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    Suggestion?

    honestly, what ever you have mentioned, I am breaching them some, but not many, so time to work on those

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Thread Hijack
    Never hijack a post from the thread starter. This does not happen deliberately but happens because slowly the topic goes off subject.
    • Suppose a member starts a topic on health issues, say, "Importance of an eight hour sleeep".
    • The first few posts are in line with the subject.
    • Then one members says how s/he is missing sleep because s/he has to stay awake till 2 AM because that is the time when BSNL happy hours start.
    • Then other members reply how it is possible to schedule download, automate things, etc.
    • The previous member is not clear "how to" and then the whole thread turns completely around and looses the original focus.

    This causes some frustration on the part of the original thread starter that her/his topic has completely lost the track and good/honest intentions have been wiped off. Such incidences are called as thread hijacking and going offtopic. As the forum rules state, please do not hijack a thread; instead open a new thread or post in a thread dealing in that subject.

    Please do report such incidences.

    Offtopic posts
    Any thread that does not belong to a particular section should be created in the offtopic forum. But please note that even offtopic posts have a subject. The thread is posted in offtopic section, because it does not deal in any of the mainstream sections. But thread hijacking applies here also.

    So called 'spam' posts
    Such posts are pure fun and enjoyment posts. You can post anything in such posts. An example is "The Crapiest Thread in the Forum". You can hijack this thread, go completely offtopic, etc. Many rules and etiquettes will be relaxed for such posts (e.g., "Ban the poster above you" thread).
    Still my confusion is not clear as i read almost 70% thread i saw often we have diverted from the original point and it's not only in general off topic section.For example just example
    How good is You broadband? in that thread so many irrelevant post is present in my opinion (including few mod reply post number #8 & #9 in present moment).Please clear me the actual margin

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    Agreed rupu. But what has happened in the past, let it go. It will be indeed a humungous task to set each and every thread right. We shall be more vigilant in the future.
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    Yes i also feel that it's very good thing to maintain the proper topic. In future i will also take care before post

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    great post

    rep ++

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    Thanks guys - cool_techie and eddy for the repo's. I welcome them.

    But if you have suggestions/additions/deletions/modifications, please do suggest. Want to make this a collaborative effort.
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    This thread was really a need of the hour... Thanks so much for writing this one

    Reps added.

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    @just4kix

    thanks for this thread. very descriptive indeed. cleared lot of my doubts. i would like suggest a few things and ask a few questions giving a few examples just like rupu1983 did in a previous post on this thread.

    1) does long articles containing only a few sentences/statements copied from other sites fall under the category of copy-paste?

    as mentioned by you in case of this thread it seems to be so :

    http://www.indiabroadband.net/litera...lagiarist.html

    2) are these rules (specially copy-paste) not applicable for moderators themselves? can we not report any post/thread by a moderator?

    if not, then the report button on moderator's posts/threads should be removed.

    if yes, then why even after reporting no change(like quoting the copied parts using the edit feature and providing the link) is done to such threads?

    ex: http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...indows-xp.html

    may be copied from Personal Computers: 23 Ways To Speed Up Windows XP

    and

    http://www.indiabroadband.net/fashio...po-trends.html

    may be copied from India call center jobs - Advantages, disadvantages and future BPO trends

    3) if similar threads like these can co-exist ,

    ex 1: http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...t-browser.html

    and http://www.indiabroadband.net/softwa...-browsers.html

    ex 2: http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...like-most.html

    and http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...virus-use.html

    then what was wrong in having this as a separate thread?: http://www.indiabroadband.net/sports...tml#post102620

    this was posted as a new thread after more than a month when this thread was created: http://www.indiabroadband.net/sports...australia.html and the last post on this thread before my thread was merged here was 22 days old. wasnt this a case of bumping threads? Also the thread i created was a bit different - it talked of the events over the past 1 month while the older thread was created when the test series was going on.

    4) this is more of a curious query - i understand that copy-paste is not allowed(without providing links). is paraphrasing allowed?

    5) why some reported instances of copy-paste threads are deleted while a few are locked and a few are left open with a warning message ?

    http://www.indiabroadband.net/politi...n-we-same.html

    http://www.indiabroadband.net/window...-out-soon.html - the copied content on this thread has still not been put inside "quote/unquote" and link has not been provided.

    6) this is also just a query: i found a member (who posts quite frequently), continuosly chasing my latest posts(using my profile statistics - "Find all posts by saurav_kataruka") in each and every thread and section in which i posted and posting just after my post. this act gets really very irritating and annoying sometimes. is this ok in terms of forum etiquettes?

    7) plz explain the infractions system. what are yellow infractions meant for? does someone gets a yellow infraction before getting a red one? what i have seen so far this does not happens.

    8) This is a suggestion which can be added to the first post as a forum etiquette -
    A separate "chat"/"gossip" thread can be created in "general offtopic section". Some instances of Thread Hijacking and Off-topic talks starts in this way:

    example:
    A who is a old member of the community and has been absent for some time makes some post related to the thread topic

    B who is a friend of A comes in and

    B to A: its been a long time. where have you been these days? nice to see you back.

    A to B: i have been busy with .... thats why ...

    and the discussion continues.

    this was just an example. these kinds of off-topic chats start in many ways. in such cases B can just leave a visitor message for A and ask him to come to "chat/gossip" thread.

    May be i couldnt put it very well like j4k's examples (i think you can understand what i want to say here)



    plz forgive me if i have said something wrong here. frankly speaking, i wrote all these things here because i felt a bit hard done by on some occassions. i felt like i have been treated harshly on some small issues while many others are getting away with more serious issues. maybe because i am currently near the top of the stats page or maybe because i am straight forward like in this post. nothing personal against anyone and i still respect the admin and mods and all the senior members of this forum and really care for this forum.


    PLZ DELETE THIS THREAD AFTER CLEARING THE DOUBTS AS I THINK IF THE DOUBTS ARE CLEARED THEN THIS POST SHOULD NOT REMAIN HERE AS THIS IS A STICKY THREAD - WHICH MOST NEW USERS MAY REFER TO.
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    Great work!!!

    Repo for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
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    thanks for this thread. very descriptive indeed. cleared lot of my doubts. i would like suggest a few things and ask a few questions giving a few examples just like rupu1983 did in a previous post on this thread.
    Thank you. As I said more than once, Forum Rules and Etiquette list is not an exhaustive CPC. These are guidlines and these need to be adhered to for making a grand forum. We cannot list individual examples and go case by case. It all depends upon the sensibility of the poster and interpretation of the person who reports the post or the mdoerator.

    The poster has a to understand the principles of good forum behaviour. If some post is reported/deleted/commented wrongly, the thread owner should apply for justice if s/he feels that injustice has been done.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    1) does long articles containing only a few sentences/statements copied from other sites fall under the category of copy-paste?
    I think I have made the case pretty clear. There is no problem in publishing information from other web pages as long as it quoted properly. ALWAYS GIVE CREDIT TO THE SOURCE. If you don't then you are infringing copyright and plagarizing. It is suggested that you use QUOTE tags but that is not strictly neceassay. You could also start the post like this:

    From "The Times of India, Web Edition, dated: dd/mm/yyyy"
    ...
    ... Full article ...
    ...
    Source: http://<url>

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    2) are these rules (specially copy-paste) not applicable for moderators themselves? can we not report any post/thread by a moderator?
    Rules and etiquettes are applicable to all.

    It is possible that duplicate threads exist. Whenever such threads are noticed, moderator will attempt to read them and merge the duplicates. Duplicate posts do not serve common interest. But mods cannot possibly keep a watch on thousands of posts that are going on and check on duplicates. Many a times, mods realize that the post is a duplicate but it is not difficult to find the matching post.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    then what was wrong in having this as a separate thread?: http://www.indiabroadband.net/sports...tml#post102620

    this was posted as a new thread after more than a month when this thread was created: http://www.indiabroadband.net/sports...australia.html and the last post on this thread before my thread was merged here was 22 days old. wasnt this a case of bumping threads? Also the thread i created was a bit different - it talked of the events over the past 1 month while the older thread was created when the test series was going on.
    I find that you are behaving in a very kiddish manner. Your post on Australian Cricket team was indeed in your own words. But a thread on the exact same lines was already existing and hence I merged the thread. I found a lot of sincere effort on your part to put your own thoughts. Note that I did not delete your post as duplicate. Becuase we sometimes delete duplicate posts without notice.

    But ever since such incidences, you started reporting other such posts. Now let us look at the many common problems that are often reported: "cannot access BSNL usage site", "BSNL BB not working", "torrent issue", etc. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of duplicate posts on such topics. It is simply not possible to police them all.

    But you felt that you are being singled out for treatment.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    4) this is more of a curious query - i understand that copy-paste is not allowed(without providing links). is paraphrasing allowed?
    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    5) why some reported instances of copy-paste threads are deleted while a few are locked and a few are left open with a warning message ?
    I have already stated on this. Forum decency mandates that you provide due credit to the source. Even if one or two lines are copied, you (not you personally, but all members) state like, "Rediff.com writes ......" or "Sashi Tharoor says ...." or "Sir Vivian Richards opined that ...". That is the proper etiquette.

    But it is not possible for the mobs to verify each and every sentence of each and every post. We are like the traffic police. If we find traffic offenders, we will catch them and impose fines. The offended party cannot claim 'others have done it, still doing it, so why am I the only one to be punished?'. That argument will not be acceptable at all. But when we catch offenders we do punish them.

    We have been very linient in this rule. But in the days of the competition we have become extra vigilant for obvious reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    6) this is also just a query: i found a member (who posts quite frequently), continuosly chasing my latest posts(using my profile statistics - "Find all posts by saurav_kataruka") in each and every thread and section in which i posted and posting just after my post. this act gets really very irritating and annoying sometimes. is this ok in terms of forum etiquettes?
    I know about whom you are talking about. Believe me that member is trying our patience too long. Sri Krishna forgave Shishupal for 100 offences that deserved the death penalty. I will not say more.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    7) plz explain the infractions system. what are yellow infractions meant for? does someone gets a yellow infraction before getting a red one? what i have seen so far this does not happens.
    Yellow infractions are like Yellow Card in a soccer match - they are warnings. They are effective for 10 days from the date of issue and expire later. No points are deducted from your reputation points total.

    Red infractions are like Red Card in a soccer match - they are severe breaches. They are also effective for 10 days from the date of issue and expire later. One point is deducted. But depending on the severity of the breach, we may let the member continue with the forum, place a temporary ban or a permanent ban. Usually Red infraction is not required for permanent ban - we simply ban them. Prime examples are spammers advertising goods, dubious posters, people posting links to porn/piracy, etc.

    It is not necessary that a person will get yellow infraction first before a red one. It all depends upon the situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    8) This is a suggestion which can be added to the first post as a forum etiquette -
    A separate "chat"/"gossip" thread can be created in "general offtopic section". Some instances of Thread Hijacking and Off-topic talks starts in this way:

    example:
    A who is a old member of the community and has been absent for some time makes some post related to the thread topic

    B who is a friend of A comes in and

    B to A: its been a long time. where have you been these days? nice to see you back.

    A to B: i have been busy with .... thats why ...

    and the discussion continues.

    this was just an example. these kinds of off-topic chats start in many ways. in such cases B can just leave a visitor message for A and ask him to come to "chat/gossip" thread.

    May be i couldnt put it very well like j4k's examples (i think you can understand what i want to say here)
    Point noted. I have already said that threads must not be hijacked. Sometimes I have myself been guilty of the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka View Post
    plz forgive me if i have said something wrong here. frankly speaking, i wrote all these things here because i felt a bit hard done by on some occassions. i felt like i have been treated harshly on some small issues while many others are getting away with more serious issues. maybe because i am currently near the top of the stats page or maybe because i am straight forward like in this post. nothing personal against anyone and i still respect the admin and mods and all the senior members of this forum and really care for this forum.
    There is nothing to forgive and I appreciate your speaking out.

    But you are completely wrong in your opinion that you have been singled out for special treatment. How does it benefit me whether you and anyone else wins the competition? As a mod I am not participating and I believe that Admin is equally unlikely to be a participant. Why should he partcipate? If he wins, he will be paying himself!! And Smoothvibes is also a gentleman. But both Admin and Smoothvibes will speak for themselves.

    All we want from the competition is new members, awaken dormant members, increase forum awareness and popularity, and have some quality posts. But at the start of the competition, all we got was a lot of junk (though not from all). There was even one guy who created two id's and the two id's were bumping each others posts. Or perhaps there were two guys who started a 'chat' in a thread.

    The top poster currently is cool_techie_tvm. Although he is a very old member, he was dormant. He became very active just after the competition was announced. In all likelyhood he in in line to win the top prize though it is early days yet. Do you know that not one of his post is ever deleted (unless the whole thread is deleted)? So please do not think that we are biased against new members. Be reasonable. Be sensible. This is all I can say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    The top poster currently is cool_techie_tvm. Although he is a very old member, he was dormant. He became very active just after the competition was announced. In all likelyhood he in in line to win the top prize though it is early days yet. Do you know that not one of his post is ever deleted (unless the whole thread is deleted)? So please do not think that we are biased against new members. Be reasonable. Be sensible. This is all I can say.
    For sometime the screen was blurred when i read that paragraph. Thanks indeed for the support

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    It is amusing to see some members falling head over heels to win the highest poster contest. Man, have you guys forgotten why you have joined this forum in the first place ........it is to gain from the experience garnered by older members using broadband. This contest is indeed laudable in its motive to increase participation but certainly it does not warrant needless sniping on others and submission of moronic posts like "lol, :lol:and more :lol:"

    Post something of interest, guys!
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    Moral of the story :
    Cool Techie TVM is Uncle Jay's Pet

    Kidding


    Moral of the Story :
    The journey[posts] is more important than the goal[Prize] .... Pls Make quality posts , if you feel theres anything unfair you can shout ...... The contest is an evolving one , will take a few tries to get the optimal settings for it

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    Hi Saurav_kataruka

    As all of your points are already answred by just4kix but still as this point is looking towards me so would like to explain.

    Quote Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka
    2) are these rules (specially copy-paste) not applicable for moderators themselves? can we not report any post/thread by a moderator?

    if not, then the report button on moderator's posts/threads should be removed.

    if yes, then why even after reporting no change(like quoting the copied parts using the edit feature and providing the link) is done to such threads?

    ex: http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...indows-xp.html (23 Ways to Speed up your Windows XP)

    may be copied from Personal Computers: 23 Ways To Speed Up Windows XP

    and

    http://www.indiabroadband.net/fashio...po-trends.html (Lifestyle in BPO's (Advantages, Disadvantages & Future BPO Trends))

    may be copied from India call center jobs - Advantages, disadvantages and future BPO trends
    I work in a Wipro and got an email address too, whatever i have posted in these two threads are copied from mail only, one article which is on BPO already got the tag and a small line on the bottom of post which says copied from my mail and i am not ashamed that i copied it from my mail as its meant for basic discussion. Other post which you are pointing is from some website (according to you) but according to me it is from my mailbox and as i deal with tech stuff all day long and all my co-workers are also engaged in similar work so we keep on sharing such mails which can add something to our knowledge base and that's what i tried to do in that article. As you stated that you are very straight forward so as i am and let me say it in very simple words that i am not willing to put that in any quotes and not providing any source address as i never copied it from any such website.


    For all the offtopic talks and as you said for chat purpose we already have one thread from long time please check Chaat Thread


    As just4kix already said that admin & mod's are already not the part of this competetion.
    I have said my part and apart from this your all the points are already cleared by just4kix. If you have some more issues then you are more than welcome to post them here.

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    @ just4kix

    thanks for all the clarifications. i appreciate the fact that you took my post in the correct spirit. i really like your ability to express things in words. i also admire cool_techie's efforts on this forum and already once said to admin that i find all posts by cool_techie absolutely valid and unquestionable.

    i request you to go through the rest of this post also.


    @ smoothvibes

    As all of your points are already answred by just4kix but still as this point is looking towards me so would like to explain.
    none of my points is looking towards you and i have nothing personal with you. i just asked a general question regarding the rules/etiquettes being applicable for mods also or not. and just to elaborate my point i cited those threads as examples which just happened to be yours.

    If you have some more issues then you are more than welcome to post them here.
    i have had no issues. so having some more becomes obsolete. i made it clear before writing my post that "
    i would like suggest a few things and ask a few questions giving a few examples
    ". i never talked of any issues.

    I work in a Wipro and got an email address too, whatever i have posted in these two threads are copied from mail only, one article which is on BPO already got the tag and a small line on the bottom of post which says copied from my mail and i am not ashamed that i copied it from my mail as its meant for basic discussion. Other post which you are pointing is from some website (according to you) but according to me it is from my mailbox and as i deal with tech stuff all day long and all my co-workers are also engaged in similar work so we keep on sharing such mails which can add something to our knowledge base and that's what i tried to do in that article. As you stated that you are very straight forward so as i am and let me say it in very simple words that i am not willing to put that in any quotes and not providing any source address as i never copied it from any such website.
    i think we all are related to some field (educational or professional) and exchange mails with our co-workers, batchmates, classmates, seniors, teachers, mentors, friends, people of special interests matching ours etc etc. we all update our knowledge base.

    i think the copy-paste rule/etiquette deserves some updating that:

    we can copy-paste stuff from our mails(of course related to the forum sections) without putting them in quotes and without providing links even if they are found to be existing on other websites at a date earlier than our post.

    i think this is logically and directly implied from your post - specially from the clarification you gave about your second thread.

    plz correct me if i am wrong.

    i know that

    As just4kix already said that admin & mod's are already not the part of this competetion.
    but, copy-paste rule/etiquette is not related with the competition only. and i have not posted this point(the second point made in my first post in this thread to which you replied) in any relation with the competition.

    i am not here just for the competition and all my questions and suggestions were intended for clearing some doubts, some discripancies which i found here.

    @ just4kix again

    don't you think that copy-pasting stuff from our mailbox without quoting and without providing links even if it is found on other websites is not an act of "infringing copyright and plagarizing"(as said by you) ? can we do this? and in case of any copyright claim can we argue with this statement that "the stuff is copied from my mailbox"?
    Last edited by saurav_k; 1st February 2009 at 01:42 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Perhaphs a simple : "From My Email " or "Source : Email" should solve the problem. simple na


    Anyways emails have a higher tendency to have hoaxes/ un verifiable sources so how can anyone identify them as copyrighted.

    Thanks uncle for such an elaborate post highlighting all the rulez crystal clear :clap: great job

    [ Damn, Still not able to rep you.. perhaphs u can use ur mod powers to increase ur point by 2 on my behalf ]

    IMO , whatever the rules , only the actual attitude of members can make a difference. Its best if everyone does his best to be within the rules but ofcourse with the new spamming committee comming up that's difficult, so better ban us soon :lol:
    Last edited by newprouser; 1st February 2009 at 09:17 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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