So how is it different?Originally Posted by Archer
I know. I was just kidding around. I like debating.
I completely agree. Keep a low profile.
Who started the story about the open door, I wonder. ? :lol:
Remember this is about illegal links not doors. It's not exactly the same.
-F
(b.t.w it was an analogy)
p.s I love an open door policy ;-)
Open door: You are steeling an individuals hard earned stuff.
Illegal: You are stealing from a group that sells stuff for a high prize.
Yes, technically both are stealing. But, lets leave the door closed for now.
What would you do if you are offered two same objects (A & B). A for a prize and B for free. Both A and B are not much different in quality or quantity. And B is more easier to get than A. Which one will you take (A or B ?
I am not supporting anything. Neither illegal nor legal. Just pointing out the facts.
BTW. I also like open doors. ;-)
-F
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Open door: You are steeling an individuals hard earned stuff.
Illegal: You are stealing from a group that sells stuff for a high prize.
Yes, technically both are stealing. But, lets leave the door closed for now.
What would you do if you are offered two same objects (A & B). A for a prize and B for free. Both A and B are not much different in quality or quantity. And B is more easier to get than A. Which one will you take (A or B ?
I am not supporting anything. Neither illegal nor legal. Just pointing out the facts.
BTW. I also like open doors. ;-)
-F
Are both A and B legally owned by the giver or respective givers?
-F
Yes, A and B both are obtained legally by the givers.
In that case I would chose B.
except if I need a status symbol or exclusivity
in which case I would pay more and get A
(like a Leica camera or a cadillac car)
-F
ooops missed an important question - are those
givers legally allowed to give away the stuff
(even if they owned it)?
lets look at it this way,
even if they have rights 2 share........u dont have rights to take.
I was wondering why you didn't mention that point.
Object A have the legal right to be distributed. B don't.
But what difference will it make ? You need to get that object as easy as it can without much effort.
we are back to square 1 ;-)
Now I change my answer to A. receiving B would be at the
very least unethical and at the most might be accessory to a crime.
-F
plus A will usually be of higher quality than B.
DVDs are better than downloads in picture/sound quality.
I have never heard of 5.1 DTS/Dolby Digital surround on a download ;-)
thats not correct,
almost all 1.4gB(+) avi files have 5.1 or better Dolby True Surround sound.
If u want much better quality and have 2mbps connection, u can go for HD/Blueray rips. The quality of a 1024p rip will blow your brains out.Literally........
those MKV containers (not avi) r more than 4GB in size.
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I stand corrected then, I haven't watched any rips so that explains it ;-)
-F
p.s I am not sure a mere movie will literally blow my brains out ;-)
p.p.s also a tech question, how do you get that surround to your
speaker/subwofer system through a receiver/amp?
Just as I thought.
But what if ?
I agree it's good to have an original copy with you. It will be a valuable asset/collection in the future. If the object is that good. But what is the harm in testing on a cheap (free) version of the object before using it for real. I think main reason the legal givers go crazy about this is either because of their greediness or they don't have confidence on their product/object.
- The price is too high.
- The object is not available in your location or hard to get.
- You just want that object for a one time use or have doubt about it, so that you don't care much for quality.
BTW. You can get full quality DVD rips too.
Just as I thought.
But what if ?
I agree it's good to have an original copy with you. It will be a valuable asset/collection in the future. If the object is that good. But what is the harm in testing on a cheap (free) version of the object before using it for real. I think main reason the legal givers go crazy about this is either because of their greediness or they don't have confidence on their product/object.
- The price is too high.
- The object is not available in your location or hard to get.
- You just want that object for a one time use or have doubt about it, so that you don't care much for quality.
BTW. You can get full quality DVD rips too.
1. price doesn't come into the equation at all. If you can't afford it don't get it.
2. Now this is a more reasonable scenario. If the material has absolutely no
chance of being made available to you then maybe there is a case.
(for example there is a rare, out of print book and the publisher
has no plans of re-releasing it or there is no more for sale then
maybe you can photocopy it)
3. In this case I wouldn't download the entire movie, just watch clips or reviews.
-F
what are you talking about :confused1:
1. thats called compromising ( its gr8 idea if u can be happy with whatever u got but it doesnt apply to all, certainly not me), and if u start doin it u will be doin it 4 the rest of ur life. U must take whatever u want and whenever u want.
2. Justified
3. Justified
1. Yes! I agree with that. But that rule changes according to the object. If we are talking about a car or something then yes. But if a movie file is the object in question then. I won't agree.
2. But, that would also be a copy right infringement. Won't it ?
3. I agree with that too. Although you won't get a good idea about the quality (not video quality) of the movie by watching previews or reviews. Previews/Trailers are made of the best scenes in a movie. The other part of the movie might not be that good. And every one have their own likes and dislikes. So the review may vary according to the reviewer.
Where is farce ? :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:
Last edited by Archer; 11-15-08 at 03:24 PM.
1. I think the problem is because the files are not something tangible and
physical, Let me pose a hypothetical question :
would you walk out of a store with a dvd without paying for it?
2. Not if I shoot off a quick message to the publisher requesting permission
to copy listing all the facts of the books unavailability.
3. Another hypothetical question ;-)
You go to a movie theater, would you tell the cashier "Let me
watch the movie and if I like it, I'll pay you at the end" ?
-F
man I can't be posting 24 hours ;-) I need some sleep.
That s where 'Intellectual Property Rights' comes into the picture ....
The creators did spend so much money and time creating the stuff , why should they allow it to be copied for free ......Their Work should be accounted for
If all movies were made free , do you really think anybody would take the pains to make one ? [ a good one] ?
And he must also spend the money from his own pocket ......
Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 11-16-08 at 12:04 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I am getting the feeling that you are exaggerating my points to turn it against me. :glare:
But one question.
[I prefer original if I could get the object at a affordable prize. But I am not going to steal cars because the prize is high know] :lol:
- Why do most people prefer pirated content over genuine ones ?
Last edited by Archer; 11-16-08 at 11:50 PM.
I am not sure that assumption is correct...
-F
That's actually correct. How much you download and upload in one month??? You want more proof ? Do you think people will get more than 6 GB if they are using it for normal purposes.
Last edited by Archer; 11-17-08 at 06:02 AM.
Should I go over to that thread and stir up some trouble???
-F
p.s The question is do those folks download legal stuff or not?
and do they know if what they do is not legal? and if
they know do they care? so many questions....
:lol: :lol: :lol:Should I go over to that thread and stir up some trouble???
Let's keep a low profile. You know.
PS: Like I said, I don't think you need more than 6 GB, unless you are downloading Linux ISO files 30-50 times a month.
1. thats only for me to know
2. same
3. Do I care ??? lets see.....
Not a bit.
okey, it seems there's THIEF :euro: inside everyone
so, my suggestion would be, if u really want a thread for posting Movie linkz,
then movie should be atleast 4-5 years old, otherwise we will also be part of ruinnig film industry.
no matters if movies are 5 years old or 10 years old, games are new or outdated but we are not discussing any links here. It is illegal and illegal means illegal
sometimes this mad wala smiley looks soo cute
i call it tamatar wala smiley :lol:
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