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    Well i've mixed thought about this particular series.. Initially i thought Bear Grylls only uses dead animal, he did not kill any, But after reading previous post it seem he kill also(I've never seen). Well if i put that killing stuff apart, then i like Man Vs Wild.

    Also its not only killing, it also shows how you can survive in those tough conditions..

    1. He also show which plant need to be eaten and how to be eaten in desert.
    2. How you can beat the heat by putting wet sand, also how and where you find those wet sand.
    3. How you can use your trouser as life jacket.
    4. If you are thirsty how can you find water by digging and how you can filter it with limited resource.


    Also someone mentioned only 1 percent of population find themselves in these conditions, life if very uncertain, who know you can found yourself trapped in those conditions, and if i stuck then i'm willing to do anything to be alive, ofcourse i don't turn to cannibal, but i won't show any hesitation in killing animal to be alive, also i strongly deny of killing animal in TV (Am i being diplomatic)


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    Exactly correct Gothic.

    and we should not forget another point he is not just any guy who is doing that show for money, he is a EX-Special operation member of Britten army.

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    all of you are just so inspired he used to be an army man and blah blah...
    and are prepared to ignore his wrong advice.... bravo people!

    A fact: Bear Grylls is laughed at by the real survival experts. If you check the link i gave you, you would know why.

    if you are so unwilling to accept your hero's faults, i'm afraid i can't help you... and so please don't waste my and your own time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnight
    if you are so unwilling to accept your hero's faults,i'm afraid i can't help you... and so please don't waste my and your own time here.
    Why are you getting angry buddy.. "Many Mens Many Head"..


    Wouldn't it be fair to start a petition of "Stop broadcasting killing in Man Vs Wild" despite to "Stop the show Man Vs Wild" ????
    I won't loose single second to sign the first one...

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    now you start pointing out my faults...

    yes absolutely it should be that, i don't mind people acting on the guy's ill advice (and probably landing into more trouble) if in the rarest of rare case of them getting stranded in no man's land. :thumbup1:

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    SK we are not supporting him entirely... and we are not pointing out your faults.... we are just telling to stop the wild show of killing animals but rest of the show is good so we want that...
    You are also having problem with the same na ie killing animals ! we are also on your side only we also dont want animals to be killed...! The difference is you want the whole show should be stopped but we want killing animals should be removed and the show should continue...!

    No Personal feelings to hurt you mate... just its our thoughts thats all.
    If i am hurting then i am really SORRY...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnight
    yes absolutely it should be that, i don't mind people acting on the guy's ill advice (and probably landing into more trouble) if in the rarest of rare case of them getting stranded in no man's land.
    Well apart from killing(Which actually is issue here), i don't see any ill advice from him, i found it informative(It's my thinking, you might disagree with me) Or Did i miss something

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    @coder Its not me who says he gives out wrong advice at various times in the show, its all here Bad Advice and Inaccuracies - BearWiki, much of it being judged by real survival experts.

    @kumar man you're not hurting me at all, when i had started the thread i did not know that much of his advice is not wholly correct, since i do not watch the show. Now that i know that, it becomes specially important that the show doesn't spread cr** all over the world.

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    No issues...!

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    well i vent seen the show myself.....but as i cud read......

    i can make out tht its really bad tht thy r showing something like this on a channel like discovery....how on earth cud thy do sumthing soo bad n cruel...? its a fact than a human is cruel but to an extent ....... this is like extremes.......!!!very bad....

    i registered myself for the petition...
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    @ SK.. I completely won't deny the facts, Instead of that i will give you example,

    After 9/11 tragedy, lots of EXPERTS comes up and specualate "What exactly happened" with the help of real examples, I watched ZeitGeist and Loose Change, after seeing that i was convinced that it was all hoax and government was behind all this, then after some time US Government comes up with "Screw Loose Change blog" and i get convinced again that that was real because they were also very much convincing, no wonder if wee see another blog "Screw "Screw Loose Change" blog""
    I just hope Bear doesn't comes up with his counter attack about what real survival expert said(Just like loose change)

    So all i'm saying that i won't deny any ones facts.....

    After Loose Change...I watch it, I think it, Then i act or decide


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    hey the show i exellent. i like it very much.
    but yes, killing the animals is not supportive at all.
    as some one said above, show must concentrte on, how to survive with the veg stuff in the nature. anyone tried to mail this thing to disovery channel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmemad View Post
    I've no problem... cuz hez not hunting them for fun or to smuggle their skin... Hez killing them to make a very informative show...
    Would you support anybody killing humans purely for the sake of medical information/research, if it means that you will an hour's worth of TV show with interesting facts about human body, too ??

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    Good point...Repo for you...
    thanks Rameshjeee


    Quote Originally Posted by gothic_coder View Post
    Initially i thought Bear Grylls only uses dead animal, he did not kill any, But after reading previous post it seem he kill also(I've never seen). Well if i put that killing stuff apart, then i like Man Vs Wild.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser
    Exactly.
    To the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser View Post
    Would you support anybody killing humans purely for the sake of medical information/research, if it means that you will an hour's worth of TV show with interesting facts about human body, too ??
    If everybody follows your logic... Then all should stop being a non-veg! I know few are... but what about majority of the others? We all contribute to kill a chicken to satisfy our stomach... Don't we need to stop that too? And do we really need to put a stop on the scientific experiments on animals which they do for the survival of mankind? My answer is No

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmemad View Post
    If everybody follows your logic... Then all should stop being a non-veg! I know few are... but what about majority of the others? We all contribute to kill a chicken to satisfy our stomach... Don't we need to stop that too? And do we really need to put a stop on the scientific experiments on animals which they do for the survival of mankind? My answer is No
    yes, its inevitable that we have to use animals for research of major drugs, its regretable but atleast it has a clear purpose - to save people,and not for entertainment ( IMO most people watch it entertainment , rather than for the fact that it maybe of use to them in future...)

    As for killing of animals for food, I really pity those animals, for we cannot make people veggies over night !

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    IMHO killing animal to eat is no less than killing animal for entertainment... So I really don't wanna be a part of this Stop the show Man vs Wild... As I know I'm no less guilty than the host of the show...

    I'll sign this petition the day I turn a veggie...

    P.S.- Smoothvibes, U have every right to sign the petition and move the cause forward...

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    Man this is a limit

    I have watched couple of episodes of the show, but haven't came across any such thing, i mean killing of animals. This is really very sad.

    BTW, i wanna ask one thing, Bear found a dead camel in the desert or he really killed that one, this thing wasn't clear in the video.

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    I think he found dead one..

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    @manish only this is not the issue here, even though hopefully he found the camel already dead, puttin this apart, he goes about many killings on the show.

    i think its a killing others show in the name of surviving.

    when he killed this,Water monitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, he first banged its head against a tree two times (its tongue hanging out of its mouth), then pierced his head with a knife... i did not watch this (thanks goodness) but got to know it by a forum as well as one of the petitions.

    whats even shocking is that he prefers to torture the animal first before killing it off and eating it.

    and thanks for signing aashaka...

    to all who are giving out the reason that all should be veg and what not, when we demand not killing anything on the show, to protect this feature in turn, are oblivious to the fact that this thread is against the useless killings which are carried out on the show in a barbaric fashion.

    The poultry and other such industries kill the animals in quite a small time (i'm not talking about china/japan), compared to the killings being carried out on this show, which torture the animals first. Being a vegan or not is a person's sweet will, after all we are omnivores, but there should be some kind of a sense to why kill an animal when it isn't necessary, and why to give it so much pain and suffering, and that too on an international show, just for some ratings.
    What effect would it have on children, who watch discovery channel as a knowledge resource? This show will imply to them that it is ok to kill any animal in pure barbaric ways for some trivial reason.

    we should strive to conserve what can be conserved...

    On one episode I saw him boil a live baby turtle
    (posted by luna on the peta forums)

    man vs wild just happened to be on last night and i caught the last 20 minutes of it. he was complaining of hunger. did he fail to see that he was surrounded by 100% leafy greens? oh brother!
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    He does this all the time. It is for the shock value I believe. There is another show called SurvivorMan and he does eat things in the wild he catches. BUT... He doesn't do the cruel things Man vs Wild does. And he talks about hating to kill anything. He never bites the head off of anything or slams them into tree stumps.
    Even as a survival show.. Man vs Wild is stupid. The things he shows regular people could not do. It is all for ratings. If you do want to watch a survival show and do not want to see the shock value of Man vs Wild.. I would pick SurvivorMan everytime.
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    Bear Grylls is a jackass.

    If you're lost, miles from nowhere, why would you do anything like that bonehead?

    He runs everywhere, burning calories and risking a twisted ankle or worse. He climbs everything on sight from trees to cliffs risking further injury.

    He gets wet in every episode, crossing stream and rivers needlessly.

    He captures venomous or dangerous animals for food, risking injury or illness.

    Everything done on that show and others is for ratings. (Not many people would tune in if the dude just sat on one place, conserved energy and water, made shelter, and calmly waited for rescue...)

    There's a reason SERE school doesn't emulate anything that clownass does.
    I'd like to draw your attention to the last post in particular.
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    When I was a kid... A snake entered the premises of my house... I still remember how all the servants of my house beat it to death with huge sticks in a barbaric fashion on the orders of my grandpa... I'm sure if that happens at ur home u'll do the same(even if you are signing the petition)... Why? Answer is simple - For survival!

    Bear Gryll's doesn't have any sophisticated instrument like poisonous injections to give the snake a peaceful death... And no one can suffocate a snake to death by pressing its neck... lol.. He just shows how to kill a snake or any other animal even if you are unarmed(or just have a knife)... Why? For survival!

    To all those who haven't seen the show... Plz watch it... Cuz the videos & examples on this thread are only telling you one side of the story... Its really informative...

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    But most of the times no animal is going to harm him, its him who goes after the animal.

    A snake will not want to mess with you if you don't mess with it.

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    U didn't get the point... He kills the snake or any other animal to eat it... To Survive!

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    when he's got maybe a banana tree within reach

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    So you mean to say if hez shooting at a desert with no tree around.. he can kill?

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