Thread: Stop the show Man vs Wild (Discovery channel)

and i see you accusing me of only concentrating on the bad parts of the show....

hmmm, let me see what he does on the show, runs around wasting energy and giving false advice many times, sees anything that moves and kills it and eats it. i don't really see where the show gets good... is it about eating the weird stuff or the unreal situations in which he is 'trapped' or is it about the even more unreal steps he takes?

Man vs Wild (Bear Gryllis) often shows suicidal behavior, ice climbing, cliff jumping, extended river floats, climbing waterfalls, desert hiking midday, drinking untreated jungle water, the Moab Utah episode showed Bear swimming UNDER a deadfall in a slot canyon, a behavior the locals judge to be flat out stupid.

this was posted by a supporter of the show on the "wilderness survival forums"

yes i support the point of maddy. even now in my house snakes come almost monthly once & most of them are cobra's so there is no other option for me rather than killing it. Being a doc (also know as life savior) i cant save its life. That i have to do.... why? because i have to survive, the same way he also kills because he also should survive... there is another thing which we can learn from this is he kills snake & eats it... so we can know that which snake are poisons and which are not so in our real life if we encounter any such snake we can identify them....

(If you want to see where is my home located then pm me ill send you the google earth location point)

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

and i see you accusing me of only concentrating on the bad parts of the show....

hmmm, let me see what he does on the show, runs around wasting energy and giving false advice many times, sees anything that moves and kills it and eats it. i don't really see where the show gets good... is it about eating the weird stuff or the unreal situations in which he is 'trapped' or is it about the even more unreal steps he takes?

this was posted by a supporter of the show on the "wilderness survival forums"

I agree on that point that some risks he takes on the show are fit to be done by an athletic guy or a pro... But question is normally who is gonna be trapped in a desert like situation? More often than not a soldier or an adventurous guy... Who will be fitter than me & you... He may also try those stunts to save himself rather than sitting and waiting for the death...

I already said previously, that this show is a great watch for somebody who wants to be a soldier... And for us mortals, its like watching ripley's believe it or not! or some other adventurous show...

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

yes i support the point of maddy....

...there is another thing which we can learn from this is he kills snake & eats it... so we can know that which snake are poisons and which are not so in our real life if we encounter any such snake we can identify them....

(If you want to see where is my home located then pm me ill send you the google earth location point)

Thanks bro...

Thats a good point u made...

No need for google map... we trust you...

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

yes i support the point of maddy. even now in my house snakes come almost monthly once & most of them are cobra's so there is no other option for me rather than killing it. Being a doc (also know as life savior) i cant save its life. That i have to do.... why? because i have to survive, the same way he also kills because he also should survive... there is another thing which we can learn from this is he kills snake & eats it... so we can know that which snake are poisons and which are not so in our real life if we encounter any such snake we can identify them....

(If you want to see where is my home located then pm me ill send you the google earth location point)

Do you suppose that a 'poisonous' snake has poison running through the entire length of his body??

if you wanna eat snakes, then you can eat any snake if its dead... just killing a poisonous snake would be quite a difficult task...

and also do you believe you can identify a poisonous/non snake in the wild just by watching this show? buddy get a book instead.

So you mean to say if hez shooting at a desert with no tree around.. he can kill?

if its absolutely necessary, which i do not think is the case with this bloody show.... real world is a difficult and dangerous place, this is mostly a staged show.

by the way, where there isn't any vegetation, you probably won't find a camel roaming around to kill. :lol:

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

if its absolutely necessary

Thats what I wanted to hear from you... Man vs Wild is conceptualized for that scenario only...

perhaps you read the sentences succeeding the part that you highlighted

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

by the way, where there isn't any vegetation, you probably won't find a camel roaming around to kill. :lol:

But u may find a dead camel or some small insects or some snakes(not again)...

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

Do you suppose that a 'poisonous' snake has poison running through the entire length of his body??

Not at all...! you didnt understand the point which i thought you would. What i meant is, which snake he is tackling and when tackling he surely will say the advantage & dis-advantages of that snake and by that we know that if the snake is poisonous or not and if it how much is its severity.

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

perhaps you read the sentences succeeding the part that you highlighted

And u didn't read 2nd part of my reply...

Originally Posted by itsmemad

Man vs Wild is conceptualized for that scenario only...

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

and also do you believe you can identify a poisonous/non snake in the wild just by watching this show? buddy get a book instead.

If we are getting the knowledge by looking at it then no need of book. He is giving good info with demonstration then why not take any lesson from it...? even you also know that every coin as two faces, you are saying one is bad, we too agree for that but why are you not looking at it from other side...?

Ohh guys!!

Now, we are having a big quarrel brewing up here. Please stop quarreling guys. Everyone have their own opinions and views and freedom of thought is the undeniable right of a human being. And, freedom to expression of thoughts is also there. But, to keep the integrity, we need to keep ourselves from being angry with our friends.

By now, quite a number of important thoughts and views have been passed on here, and I think that this should be left here for others to just come and have there on views.

No probs... Anyways, I've said enough to put my point across on this thread... Others are always welcome here...

But no one was fighting here... We were just reasoning with each other...

:21:Fine ... its ok with me...! :2:

first thing, i did not read the full thread, too long.

IMO, if u dont like the killing of animals, u should first discourage non veg/meat, fur,leather,etc. Not just on this show, i mean commercially too. I think those who consume non veg food ur doing the same ......u just dont "see" the ugly side of it
I did read that those situations are "unreal", but anything can happen any time, suppose u get trapped during a trek, with minimum resources, how do u increase ur chances of survival....

Secondly, most of the episodes i have seen, there are no fruits. Plz remember that not all "fruits" are safe to eat.
But yes, 1nce he did get coconuts................

as far as killing snakes, i don't get y ppl are reacting to it ?? I mean i have seen episodes in which he has killed many many things, looks bad, but hey if u wanna survive at any cost and u have no other option, just do it naa ??

I m really sry cos i did not read the full thread, plz tell me in the smallest way y the show should be banned. I like that show.

PS: PLZZ don get angry with me, its hard going through full treads....

yep thats what we are also trying to convince...

anyway thanks for your comment...!

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

Look at this link please, specially the supporters, i found it on the PETA forums

Bad Advice and Inaccuracies - BearWiki

As a side note. PETA has its own agenda. Lots of things it does
is suspect. They themselves stage cruelties to make a point.

So linking PETA in this is not going to add any credibility.

-F

For the record, the site was not made by peta, farce. If i hadn't mentioned peta, then would you think differently?
And an average member had posted the link, not the admin there. Furthermore, the show receives criticism from even the actual survivor community, let alone peta, you say i'm making things up, Just ******* Google It.

I simply find it futile to convince anyone from behind a computer monitor, if he/she has completely locked up his train of thought.
So, like the show, whetever, i got 11 people to support me, more than what i hoped for. humanity hasn't died yet. Thanks a lot!

Was that link really necessary to make a point???

-F

I mean the j...f...g..

and I am not saying you are making things up.
I said PETA makes things up sometimes.

I don't support animal abuse myself.

Lol..This thread is getting hotter ..
Everyone expresses their point(Including Me), and that was nice discussion.. Whoever signed the petition or not, that's absolutely their point of view, and people are smart enough to understand these things


PEACE ALWAYS

yes its absolutely their wish and will... as you said people are smart enough to understand it.

Originally Posted by itsmemad

...We were just reasoning with each other...

i beg to differ, you were going all out to get me to say what you wanted. which i did, along with certain arguments, but which you chose to ignore.

hmmm... OK...

Here's what i think of this f***ing show and i quote:

1: "animal cruelty for the sake of shock value is not entertainment. it's barbaric."

2: "This is rather like the Colosseum - ridiculous savage enteratinment in -- 2009 a.d.?"

3: "The only thing this show represents is the stupidity of mankind and disrespect towards nature. I have been in survival situations, and did not require to kill innocent animals. Common sense goes a long way in such a situations, which the start of the show lacks anyway."

4: "Like you people have already said, "...we have seen him deliver harm unto many animals when it was not needed." He is not in a life or death situation, & has no right to slaughter & kill those animals. And really, how many people that watch this show are ever gonna get themselves into a similar situation ?"

5: "This man is not killing these animals for survival, just for his own sick thrills, nor is he killing them humanely. im deeply saddened that the discovery channel is supporting this idiot, ive always enjoyed all the shows the discovery channel has put out, but now i cant say that i will continue to watch the discovery channel unless you cancel this guy's show."

6: "Fake show killing real animals. That's messed up."

7: "This show does not promote a positive image for wildlife. We should be focusing on conservation of the limited resources we have left, and a healthy respect for the animals we share the world with. Instead of promoting a healthy atmosphere of learning, this show is teaching people and their children that wildlife is nothing but unfeeling things to be used at our discretion. It promotes animal abuse and senseless killing. Often times, the protagonist doesn't even use all of what he annihilates. He just kills it and leaves what he doesn't use. We know that the show is staged, and that this man is nowhere near in fear for his life at any time. What he needs to be doing, is teaching the audience what needs to be done in an emergency situation; he doesn't need to actually do it. He can teach a valid and interesting emergency tactic without actually performing the action."

8: "I'm sorry but I don't find killing animals entertaining. If the guy was actually in a survival situation this might be acceptable but he is not. It's just done for the purposes of the show.. In my opinion, this is not education its entertainment and thus offensive. With the current ecological disasters and extinction of species etc. currently at hand, do we really need a show about some guy destroying animal life? Also what's with this "Versus" thing? Why is "man" always portrayed as fighting nature rather than just living with nature. It's this attitude that has got us into the current mess we're in. Also, isn't " Man" now politically incorrect? Bottom line: In my opinion, this show is about as entertaining as watching someone clobber a kitten. This show infuriates me."

9: "My family and I had the unfortunate experience of turning on the Discovery Channel only to see the "man vs. wild" guy cutting the head off of a living, innocent skunk. This is one of our favorite channels, but lately I am hesitant to turn it on for fear that this awful show is on. Please stop the senseless brutality towards the creatures we are supposed to be protecting."

10: "I've never seen this show, and I never plan to. From what I have heard, it is a sick show, and promotes animal abuse."

and itsmemad, as for your "conceptualised" argument, how much would this film be acceptable to you, Sin City (2005), if real people were being slaughtered on the sets? :001_huh:

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OMG look at this... Proof that the show Man vs Wild is fake



i can't stop laughing at this show now.... there's your survivor surviving...

bloody killings for this...

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

OMG look at this... Proof that the show Man vs Wild is fake



i can't stop laughing at this show now.... there's your survivor surviving...

bloody killings for this...