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newprouser

yes, its inevitable that we have to use animals for research of major drugs, its regretable but atleast it has a clear purpose - to save people,and not for entertainment ( IMO most people watch it entertainment , rather than for the fact that it maybe of use to them in future...)

As for killing of animals for food, I really pity those animals, for we cannot make people veggies over night !

itsmemad

IMHO killing animal to eat is no less than killing animal for entertainment... So I really don't wanna be a part of this Stop the show Man vs Wild... As I know I'm no less guilty than the host of the show...

I'll sign this petition the day I turn a veggie...

P.S.- Smoothvibes, U have every right to sign the petition and move the cause forward...

Dragon

Man this is a limit

I have watched couple of episodes of the show, but haven't came across any such thing, i mean killing of animals. This is really very sad.

BTW, i wanna ask one thing, Bear found a dead camel in the desert or he really killed that one, this thing wasn't clear in the video.

gothic_coder

I think he found dead one..

StarK

@manish only this is not the issue here, even though hopefully he found the camel already dead, puttin this apart, he goes about many killings on the show.

i think its a killing others show in the name of surviving.

when he killed this,Water monitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, he first banged its head against a tree two times (its tongue hanging out of its mouth), then pierced his head with a knife... i did not watch this (thanks goodness) but got to know it by a forum as well as one of the petitions.

whats even shocking is that he prefers to torture the animal first before killing it off and eating it.

and thanks for signing aashaka...

to all who are giving out the reason that all should be veg and what not, when we demand not killing anything on the show, to protect this feature in turn, are oblivious to the fact that this thread is against the useless killings which are carried out on the show in a barbaric fashion.

The poultry and other such industries kill the animals in quite a small time (i'm not talking about china/japan), compared to the killings being carried out on this show, which torture the animals first. Being a vegan or not is a person's sweet will, after all we are omnivores, but there should be some kind of a sense to why kill an animal when it isn't necessary, and why to give it so much pain and suffering, and that too on an international show, just for some ratings.
What effect would it have on children, who watch discovery channel as a knowledge resource? This show will imply to them that it is ok to kill any animal in pure barbaric ways for some trivial reason.

we should strive to conserve what can be conserved...

(posted by luna on the peta forums)

(posted by rawsome)

(posted by TonyaErin)

I'd like to draw your attention to the last post in particular.

itsmemad

When I was a kid... A snake entered the premises of my house... I still remember how all the servants of my house beat it to death with huge sticks in a barbaric fashion on the orders of my grandpa... I'm sure if that happens at ur home u'll do the same(even if you are signing the petition)... Why? Answer is simple - For survival!

Bear Gryll's doesn't have any sophisticated instrument like poisonous injections to give the snake a peaceful death... And no one can suffocate a snake to death by pressing its neck... lol.. He just shows how to kill a snake or any other animal even if you are unarmed(or just have a knife)... Why? For survival!

To all those who haven't seen the show... Plz watch it... Cuz the videos & examples on this thread are only telling you one side of the story... Its really informative...

StarK

But most of the times no animal is going to harm him, its him who goes after the animal.

A snake will not want to mess with you if you don't mess with it.

itsmemad

U didn't get the point... He kills the snake or any other animal to eat it... To Survive!

StarK

when he's got maybe a banana tree within reach

itsmemad

So you mean to say if hez shooting at a desert with no tree around.. he can kill?

StarK

and i see you accusing me of only concentrating on the bad parts of the show....

hmmm, let me see what he does on the show, runs around wasting energy and giving false advice many times, sees anything that moves and kills it and eats it. i don't really see where the show gets good... is it about eating the weird stuff or the unreal situations in which he is 'trapped' or is it about the even more unreal steps he takes?

this was posted by a supporter of the show on the "wilderness survival forums"

kirankumargb

yes i support the point of maddy. even now in my house snakes come almost monthly once & most of them are cobra's so there is no other option for me rather than killing it. Being a doc (also know as life savior) i cant save its life. That i have to do.... why? because i have to survive, the same way he also kills because he also should survive... there is another thing which we can learn from this is he kills snake & eats it... so we can know that which snake are poisons and which are not so in our real life if we encounter any such snake we can identify them....

(If you want to see where is my home located then pm me ill send you the google earth location point)

itsmemad

I agree on that point that some risks he takes on the show are fit to be done by an athletic guy or a pro... But question is normally who is gonna be trapped in a desert like situation? More often than not a soldier or an adventurous guy... Who will be fitter than me & you... He may also try those stunts to save himself rather than sitting and waiting for the death...

I already said previously, that this show is a great watch for somebody who wants to be a soldier... And for us mortals, its like watching ripley's believe it or not! or some other adventurous show...

Thanks bro...

Thats a good point u made...

No need for google map... we trust you...

StarK

Do you suppose that a 'poisonous' snake has poison running through the entire length of his body??

if you wanna eat snakes, then you can eat any snake if its dead... just killing a poisonous snake would be quite a difficult task...

and also do you believe you can identify a poisonous/non snake in the wild just by watching this show? buddy get a book instead.


if its absolutely necessary, which i do not think is the case with this bloody show.... real world is a difficult and dangerous place, this is mostly a staged show.

by the way, where there isn't any vegetation, you probably won't find a camel roaming around to kill.

itsmemad

Thats what I wanted to hear from you... Man vs Wild is conceptualized for that scenario only...

StarK

perhaps you read the sentences succeeding the part that you highlighted

itsmemad

But u may find a dead camel or some small insects or some snakes(not again)...

kirankumargb

Not at all...! you didnt understand the point which i thought you would. What i meant is, which snake he is tackling and when tackling he surely will say the advantage & dis-advantages of that snake and by that we know that if the snake is poisonous or not and if it how much is its severity.

itsmemad

And u didn't read 2nd part of my reply...

kirankumargb

If we are getting the knowledge by looking at it then no need of book. He is giving good info with demonstration then why not take any lesson from it...? even you also know that every coin as two faces, you are saying one is bad, we too agree for that but why are you not looking at it from other side...?