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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnight View Post
    and itsmemad, as for your "conceptualised" argument, how much would this film be acceptable to you, Sin City (2005), if real people were being slaughtered on the sets?
    I already had a similar argument with someone on this thread only.. browse back...

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    starry u could have attched a poll too........

    and yes i think the show should not be aired.........poor animals....:sad:

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnight;139808
    OMG look at this... [url=http://www.noob.us/entertainment/man-vs-wild-is-fake/
    Proof that the show Man vs Wild is fake[/url]
    I know that sometimes they stage events... This also I said somewhere on this thread before you realized it and dug the link... So what? Information is real...

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    BTW, I've already mentioned why I won't be signing the petition... I don't want to justify myself again n again... You garner more support... I've no probs... I'm outta here now... No hard feelings from my side...

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    ^^^
    Thats what I had been saying all the while... Rep awarded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    I dont get the point here.
    I know this is not good 4 our wild life. Not setting a good example.
    Look at this:
    GoVeg.com // Cruelty to Animals: Mechanized Madness

    Now, lets BAN all chicken/meat products in the country.

    If u feel for the snake, i m sure u will hate the way cows/pigs/chickens are treated.

    I m not saying that what they show on Man Vs wild is good, but this is on a HUGE scale. This is what we all have to stop. The show is nothing in front of this industry.
    and as long as these types of shows exist, it will only promote such behavior, why are you not getting this simple fact?

    i don't feel like saying anything... you may say i have nothing to say... you may say i chickened out... you may say whatever you want, but i simply don't have the time to try and convince you all.
    there are always exceptions in the universe, and you might be the type of people in the first place that the show airs in the first place...
    DON'T beam me up, Scotty!

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    Actually it is this 'so what??, he does it too!!' attitude of the human race that we're all staring global warming in the face today... now you may deny that too... cool...

    hence the show should also continue with its own type of killings, as more dastardly acts are going on. <--Great attitude towards life mate, this is known as hypocrisy, its the same as not switching your own lights off at home (which are wasting energy uselessly), thinking that there are bigger ways that are wasting energy today... thats what you are saying na? Bravo...

    hypocrisy can be seen everywhere, from the Indian government, to maybe our own parents! its just an aspect of human nature, i fully understand this argument that you guys have been putting forward, itsmemad (which made him rep you, as you thought like him) a few pages back, now you, possibly someone else may be thinking the same thing right now...

    But i strive to stay away as much as possible from this feeling, which in my opinion is the root cause of everything bad continuing on in our society.

    Peace... Good luck stopping meat production

    Read more about it here, Hypocrisy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It is a common fallacy to accuse someone of being a hypocrite in an attempt to invalidate their argument. This can be known as an ad hominem attack.
    Now you might say that its i who is doing this to you guys?? But actually its your 'more barabaric deeds are already going on, first stop them' claim, that's accusing me of being a hypocrite, hence the common fallacy has already come into play here.

    PS: On the bright side, I think its the longest thread where people have stayed on topic!
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    • My understanding is this, Its much easier to stop a TV show (since the entire purpose is gather fame/viewership), than to stop people all over the world from consuming non-veg(for some it may be the oly means of survival forever !)
    • I try as much as possible to avoid using animal products and encourage my friends to do so. (I'm a veggie, I don't use leather products unless I don't have a choice).
    • Also I support starry point that,

      "Since everybody's doing it,so he can also do it." simply cannot be a reason to justify the show.(Reason why suicides,teenage sex,bribery etc are increasing).Its a method by which problems multiply not decrease.

    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnight View Post
    PS: On the bright side, I think its the longest thread where people have stayed on topic!
    :lol:

    you bet it is !!

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    I really don't support animal killing at all and as most of us are talking about eating non veg and all that so i think most of you already know that i an pure veggie and animal killing for taste or for any other entertainment purpose is a big turnoff for me.

    If you want to support this show then you can do but try and think logically, i will not say what to think and what not to but if you are human then just think like an human only, I am not looking for any explanations or justification here like humans got canines and pointed teeth etc. If you like to support then come and if you don't like to support then welcome

    We live in a free country and everyone got the complete right to show or express his/her feelings.

    Maddy if you don't want to sign petition then don't sign mate and no one can force you too

    this thread is on topic and i request all fellow spammers to keep it clean, any off topic posts would be deleted without giving any reason :devil:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    ....but this is on a HUGE scale. This is what we all have to stop. The show is nothing in front of this industry....
    so the show should continue with its killings on international tv... THIS is the reason i call you a hypocrite, Please refrain from twisting my statements around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    Slightly off topic: Stopping Non veg food is the ONLY practical way of countering global warming.
    http://www.indiabroadband.net/tv/167...tml#post140079 (Stop the show Man vs Wild (Discovery channel))

    who said this here?

    as for the stopping the show is concerned, if you save even the 50 animals, it will be worth the attempt.

    its the same as making even the smallest change in the world, if you can accomplish that, then you might actually do larger things in life later on. i don't know how you are thinking, but i do think its the same way a majority of the population is thinking.

    I do not want to make you understand a simple fact over and over again... chill out yaar.. you don't want to do your part, fine.

    Not doing the smaller things in life, in the view that you should do the bigger things, would in fact not help you to achieve anything at all.

    Take care....There must be a 100 people understanding me right now, you're not, and you will never be. I understand bro, its just the wide variety of human nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    Less that a few minutes is the killing part. Lots is informative too.
    arre yaar not that part again... why not make it just informative (and correct for that matter) without the needless killings?
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    may i warn you again, that not all is correct information on that show. you can check out the link i had given a few pages back.

    We all should no restrict ourselves to the banning of this show, we should work together to save the animal life on our planet, not ONLY this show.
    so does this mean we have an agreement (at least for this show, for NOW)?

    now i'll have to go... i think we do have an agreement on the point... cya
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    SK why dont you think like this...? you got a video in which its set up and filmed, why cant the killing part also be the same...? that might also be filmed the same...!

    Even if her is killing there, he never killed any endangered species... or which are against the law.

    Come on yar we both told our personal thoughts thats all dont take it personal buddy...

    Enough of this thread everybody is getting disappointed here sorry I AM OUT OF HERE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    First thing, if u do the easy thing, stop the TV show, u will save the life of 50 animals.Do the Hard thing(which IMO is not hard at all), u will save the life of millions of animals.
    As starry stated, you twisting my statement too....

    Seriously , if all people listened to sense ,than it would have been possible to convert most people into vegetarians.

    then again saving 50 animals is better than nothing at all !!!

    However I agree that we should not stop with banning only this show, its just the beginning of an end...

    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    Now, for who is it the only means of survival ???
    If there are animals, there are plants. I can understand if ur talking abt ppl in the Polar regions, but the rest have no excuse for not having veg food.
    Think again bro, being in a highly populous and developing country, its inevitable that people will depend on non-veg (Just for the record, I'm not supporting that it should be so, but fact is that, for man, Air,water & food comes before everything else including morals )

    There are lots of reasons (interdependent) why people resort to non-veg food

    poverty
    lack of awareness
    family habits
    improper food supply from government
    the list is endless....

    Less that a few minutes is the killing part.
    Dude I'm shocked !!

    So what if the killing time is less( as shown in TV) , its a crime none the less, I seriously don't understand the logic behind that quote of yours.

    Lots is informative too.
    Back to square one

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    @rajan1311,starry

    we are all in favour of banning the show, albeit that each of us is speaking about it from a different angle thats it !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    Think abt this,
    1 chicken can feed at most 5 ppl, right ??
    Now, the amount of grain consumed by that 1 chicken in its life time is easily more that 5Kg of grain.
    That 5 Kg of grain can easily feed 20 PPl or so. So, it is best if in our country, where there is not enough food for all, ppl eat veg food.

    Also, did u know, if 20% of America turns to veg, there will be no more food crisis in the world.

    Sry i have gone totally off topic !!!!
    Being a veggie and a lazy goose, my knowledge of what chickens eat is limited !! As far as I have seen in my village chickens mainly feed on worms/insects only, never saw it being fed anything like plant products.

    My tho is that if India preserves what it food it produces and government does its planning properly, we will have no food problem.

    And then again,forget america, why are we exporting certain food items, when we ourselves lack them ?

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