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    how do we Uninstall the BETA ??? Is formating the only way ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    how do we Uninstall the BETA ??? Is formating the only way ???
    no need u can upgrade, though MS doesnt recommend it, so there are 2 ways u can upgrade from beta to RC -
    1> by going through MS way, by installing a fresh copy of RC & removing beta before that.

    2> by following procedure -
    1. Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD. ( or u can open it using virtual cd/dvd rom kinda s/w, like virutal clone drive, daemon tools & alcohol are having some compatibility issues with W7)

    2. Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).

    3. Browse to the sources directory.
    4. Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
    5. Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7077 to 7000 .
    6. Save the file in place with the same name.
    7. Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.

    i doubt there is any other way apart from above 2, as Windows 7 release candidate setup will quit automatically if it recognizes a pre-RC build on the computer system.

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    Thx 4 the info buddy. But i think i will give it a pass. Here we can see some changes in the RC:
    Lifehacker - What's New in the Windows 7 Release Candidate - Windows 7 release candidate

    I will stick with the BETA as i can not use the virtual XP(XP mode) as my processor does not support virtualization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    Thx 4 the info buddy. But i think i will give it a pass. Here we can see some changes in the RC:
    Lifehacker - What's New in the Windows 7 Release Candidate - Windows 7 release candidate

    I will stick with the BETA as i can not use the virtual XP(XP mode) as my processor does not support virtualization.
    u can keep dual boot. xp & w7 both, i m doing the same

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    even i have it bro.
    But the new feature, main new feature of the RC was XP mode. It is virtual XP running in Windows 7. Ur processor needs to support it. Now, my E5200, E2xxx series, Q8xxx,E4xxx etc frm Intel and sempron frm AMD do not support virtualization. Hence, we can not use the XP mode on Windows 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    even i have it bro.
    But the new feature, main new feature of the RC was XP mode. It is virtual XP running in Windows 7. Ur processor needs to support it. Now, my E5200, E2xxx series, Q8xxx,E4xxx etc frm Intel and sempron frm AMD do not support virtualization. Hence, we can not use the XP mode on Windows 7.
    same here my Q6600 doesnt support it , so running dual boot

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    then no point upgrading to rc right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    then no point upgrading to rc right ?
    well there are lot many other features are present. xp mode is not the only major feature of W7, i found boot time is faster then xp, unlike vista security is more enhanced without irritating the user, so u can give it a try,

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    Default way better than vista but it is a Release Candidate

    Its still in development so ms pretty much made progress but the real test would be when the final build comes out. But except that it been one of the best windows atleast I've seen.

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    Do they still have all those Aero effects and all that i-candy ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady911 View Post
    Its still in development so ms pretty much made progress but the real test would be when the final build comes out. But except that it been one of the best windows atleast I've seen.
    well the real one will be pretty much similar to RC, there will be some fixes which are pointed out in RC, apart from this i dont think they will change much

    & ya its one of the best Windows i have seen
    Quote Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN View Post
    Do they still have all those Aero effects and all that i-candy ??
    aero effects are there, bt wats i-candy??
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    Default Windows 7-X64-review


    OS tested:-
    Windows 7-ultimate-X64-RC
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    Hadware tested:-
    AMD 64 Athlon-2800+
    2.5GB DDR400 RAM
    K8V-X MB-SATA-RAID support
    HDD-
    SATA-80 GB+250 GB
    IDE-20GB
    ODD-
    HP DVD RW
    SONY DVD/CD RW
    Pinnacle media center TV tuner
    APC Back-UPS ES 500(with auto-shutdown)

    ================================

    Pros

    1. Installs without a problem
    2. Activates without a problem, takes only seconds
    3. Definitely faster and more flexible than VISTA
    4. Good 32 bit backward compatibility
    5. LAN and bluetooth driver embedded
    6. Good bluetooth security(generates a random multi digit security code while pairing a new device), you may have to install latest software for your phone to avail all features of bluetooth mobile
    7. Bluetooth dial up works like charm
    8. Installed AVAST and updated without a problem
    9. GUI is almost 99% similar to vista, but was more flexible and transitions like aero effect and the window thumbnails are smoother and gentler
    10. Graphics drivers are updated, no need to install any extra driver for high end cards unless essential
    11. Very good media center program embedded, even better then original media center OS
    12. Hibernation worked fine(good for laptop users)
    13. very low CPU usage, do not worry if your CPU is slow or old
    14. Programs open quick
    15. Installed k-lite and played video just fine, media player is very good, no lag at all
    16. good tablet PC support
    17. good set of tools embedded ,like the all new "MS paint"
    18. CD/DVD writing worked fine without any third party software like NERO
    19. Almost all the drivers for VISTA worked for Windows 7 also(applicable only for my hardware).
    20. My UPS hibernated the PC successfully during power failure while in Windows 7.

    Cons

    1. Very high RAM usage even while no major programs are running, at least 1GB RAM needed
    2. My hardware is 5 years old still my on board sound card was not detected, MS should have provided most vital drivers .
    3. Even if you activate your OS , a text message shows on the bottom left of the screen--"Windows 7, Evaluation copy-build-7100"
    4. Occasionally when system faces any problem or an unexpected delay in opening a program, the desktop goes black without any clue, although it recovers after 3-4 seconds.(occurrence is very rare)
    5. If you have a secondary Microsoft based OS and is hibernated but Windows 7 is your default OS, then also the bootloader takes you to the hibernated OS on system start, without showing the default OS or the selection menu.
    6. The scariest dream of every Microsoft OS user, the blue screen of death appears if you try to tweak your processor, RAM or graphics chip a little(only happened for me, your hardware may act differently).
    7. Whenever I tried to move the taskbar to the top through the left side or to left through top side, a patch of shadow, exactly the size of the taskbar appears on the leaving side. This also happens if you resize the taskabr if it is no left or top side of desktop.
    8. This is not for people who just need it to check mails or for writing documents and like it simple, because they may find the interface more tricky and clumsy.

    You have to take time and explore the OS fully to be able to use it properly, if you are not a master in computer usage.




    This review is strictly for my hardware tested and from only one day of observation, your hardware may not act in a similar fashion.
    Corrections and remarks are welcome.

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    @puchu
    thanks for ur review,
    well for old computers its better to use 32 bit OS, all with dual cores & more can try 64 bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by saugatdb View Post
    @puchu
    thanks for ur review,
    well for old computers its better to use 32 bit OS, all with dual cores & more can try 64 bit
    Not at all, mine is not dual core, still it worked well.

    In fact on a single processor PC the 64 bit OS would better than a 32 bit one if your processor supports 64 bit.



    The OS is not heavy on processor, the resource which is used more is RAM.

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    hmm , k i will try to check it in a single core procc supporting 64 bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by saugatdb View Post
    same here my Q6600 doesnt support it , so running dual boot
    dude q6600 DOES support VT. Chk again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puchu View Post
    Not at all, mine is not dual core, still it worked well.

    In fact on a single processor PC the 64 bit OS would better than a 32 bit one if your processor supports 64 bit.



    The OS is not heavy on processor, the resource which is used more is RAM.
    @Puchu

    I think it would have been better if you had made a seperate thread for your review and then posted the links in windows 7 threads
    you may want to get into touch with just4kicks he may be able to help you with it

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    @ShAdOwCoN'

    ok I have done the same.

    Check the link in my signature.

    I would like other people also to contribute to the thread.

    This is Sunday, make use of your time people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saugatdb View Post
    try the RC version, if the problem persists then pls report



    well already using 32 bit from past 3 days, waiting for ur 64-bit review, pls give it a comparable view with 32 bit
    Yesterday i downloaded win7 RC build 7100 and installed.Tried all the updates.But still the problem persists.What should i do?Restart everytime using restart button?
    No one here to give me a proper solution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saugatdb View Post
    well already using 32 bit from past 3 days, waiting for ur 64-bit review, pls give it a comparable view with 32 bit
    http://www.indiabroadband.net/window...tml#post152313

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    @puchu
    Sorry that was a mistake from me.
    My aim was to quote only these words "try the RC version, if the problem persists then pls report"
    As it says i reported my problem.
    Anyone to help?
    (pls read my posts from page 10) if any one interested to help.Plzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajai5777 View Post
    Yesterday i downloaded win7 RC build 7100 and installed.Tried all the updates.But still the problem persists.What should i do?Restart everytime using restart button?
    No one here to give me a proper solution?
    can u please tell me ur system config??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajai5777 View Post
    I installed it recently.Every thing works fine except a big problem.When i use heavy multitasking,the system hangs.Mouse cursor freezes and cant access anything including task manager.Only thing i can do is to restart pc using restart button

    I use winxp and win7 dual boot installed in different hard discs.
    My rig
    p4ht 3ghz
    intel d101ggc
    2 gb ddr1 ram 400mhz.
    250+80gb hdd
    nvidia 9500gt

    i use win7 build 7000.

    Any solutins plz.
    It is clear that system is not taking the load and explorer.exe does not find sufficient time to complete all tasks and runs into dead lock.

    You may do only one thing, decrease the priority of some applications which you think, would take more processor time than others during multitasking and as win 7 is not the OS for multitasking. At least that's what I think.

    Are you using the 64 or 32 bit. ?
    You said that you were using build 7000, try the "RC build 7100".

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    @puchu
    i think u can help me to resolve this.Will u please read from page 10(all posts) ? i have discussed the problem in detail including screenshots,some instances of experience etc.

    You have quoted my first post.After that i downloaded win 7 RC 7100 and problem still persists.
    I use 32bit.I think my proccy only support 32bit.

    If a proccy is low it might speed down the pc and finally the result of hanging.
    But in win 7 my pc is damn fast with p4 including opening and closing of progrms,booting, shutting down etc i dont feel any discomfort.

    But when it gets stuck no cpu activity(but fan runs at higher speed) no input is processed including mouse movement and keyboard.absolute nothing.Then i press the restart button.

    If my proccy is low why it runs smoother? i mean no slow downs but a random stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajai5777 View Post
    @puchu

    But when it gets stuck no cpu activity(but fan runs at higher speed)

    It might not be a software problem, it might a overheating problem.


    Mine is a 4 year old AMD 64 athlon 2800+ 1.8GHz(single processor), W7 X64 is running smoother than Xp X86 on my PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary4gar View Post
    The changes include:
    *New theme
    *Improved taskbar
    *User access control which is not irritating
    * Deviced stage
    *Homegroup
    *Improvement in AERO Interface
    *System is more snappier and light
    * DirectX 11
    *Internet Explorer 8
    *DivX support
    *troubleshooters for fixing a problem
    *Action center

    The list is long, Overall Window 7 is perfect blend of fixes and new enhancements.
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    Yes, Windows 7 may have all these,Vista's reduced features for faster performance.But It is still Creepy Window 7.

    As Windows 7 name suggest Its just a no.7 and nothing else.
    As Microsoft told , "little improvement."
    As I tested the Window 7......It is not actually a New OS But It is a policed version of Vista. From the Bottom.

    Also since Vista is a failure. So I will say that TO SAVE THERE BU#T* they Just renamed the OS.and Reduced many features from the Original OS,
    (Also They Overclocking your System, and You feel that The Window 7 is Faster.)It will decrease your hardware life by incresing temperature.

    Well Some tweaks can Make Vista Faster too.
    It is better to upgrage your hardware then Windows 7.

    Also On my Vista There are lots of program. and It manages well.
    But Windows 7 ,I found It get slow after using two three programs.and Games.
    In Powersaver Mode IN VISTA You can play a GAME... for hours.BUT IN 7 you can play for 15 to 20 min After that you need a Air coolent.
    Graphics are good but what about Heat. (Its an OverClocking result of your System.)
    And It is due to Windows 7.


    To Dear Microsoft,
    Saving B#tt is not the solution, Google is On there way. Google lanching a New Operating System Free.Huur...rr..ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by RakeshOnline View Post
    .................................................. ..........................
    Yes, Windows 7 may have all these,Vista's reduced features for faster performance.But It is still Creepy Window 7.

    As Windows 7 name suggest Its just a no.7 and nothing else.
    As Microsoft told , "little improvement."
    As I tested the Window 7......It is not actually a New OS But It is a policed version of Vista. From the Bottom.

    Also since Vista is a failure. So I will say that TO SAVE THERE BU#T* they Just renamed the OS.and Reduced many features from the Original OS,
    (Also They Overclocking your System, and You feel that The Window 7 is Faster.)It will decrease your hardware life by incresing temperature.

    Well Some tweaks can Make Vista Faster too.
    It is better to upgrage your hardware then Windows 7.

    Also On my Vista There are lots of program. and It manages well.
    But Windows 7 ,I found It get slow after using two three programs.and Games.
    In Powersaver Mode IN VISTA You can play a GAME... for hours.BUT IN 7 you can play for 15 to 20 min After that you need a Air coolent.
    Graphics are good but what about Heat. (Its an OverClocking result of your System.)
    And It is due to Windows 7.


    To Dear Microsoft,
    Saving B#tt is not the solution, Google is On there way. Google lanching a New Operating System Free.Huur...rr..ray
    But for me the temperature remained almost the same for MB, processor and Graphics card.
    I tried GRID , Farcry 2, Crysis warhead .

    I tried these on W7 64bit.

    I am not an MS fan, in fact I only use Windows for games now, but still I think W7 will do ok, but the main problem is what will be the cost .

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    $ 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by meetdilip View Post
    $ 200
    Not good, I would rather buy Mandriva powerpack X86-64 --49 euros



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    Quote Originally Posted by meetdilip View Post
    $ 200
    Quote Originally Posted by puchu View Post
    Not good, I would rather buy Mandriva powerpack X86-64 --49 euros


    i'd like to get a free copy of both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser View Post
    i'd like to get a free copy of both...:d
    :d

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    $200 is retail cost, OEM should be far cheaper.

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    where do we get to buy OEM's, usually only manufacturers get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meetdilip View Post
    $ 200
    upgrade should cost 100$

    so far RTM leak works well, hadn't activated it yet

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