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garbage man .... i still use XPsp3 .... and as u know i have a gaming desktop , no issues with sys requirement ....
what are trying to say ?Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN
xp is better than vista
well for me the new search system, the dreamscene fuction and video/pict ure preview and sidebar are almost indespensable.
agreed, they can be brought about by 3rd party software in xp , the integrated functions work the best.
Another thing which i loved with vista was that the setup DVD can be used to diagonise and solve the problems automatically, rather than using XP's rescue tools.
although i've never used it, another feature which's pretty good is the shrink volume feature. i feel its very usefull for laptops.
Vista's way better than XP, its sad that many people don't accept that fact. Although its downright funny they people hail 7 , noting that its nothing more than a tweaked up vista. but credits to M$ for making it run fast.
even MS accepted the fact that vista was crap ...... during the 7 release
Hail ????
people only said it was better than vista .... which is a fact ..... it does have a better performance with many annoying issues (of vista) removed
Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 05-15-09 at 01:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
obviously due to pressure from public, they speak what people want to hear and nothing else...
yeah customers say its crap .... the developer says its crap
so it must be crap right ?
As of the end of April 2009, Windows Vista is the second most widely used operating system on the internet with a 23.90% market share, the most widely used being Windows XP with a 62.21% market share
-wikipedia
well.. inventions are made.. and later the modifications are done to meet the requirements.. but u cant think the original one to be useless... ultimately.. its the original's modification....
same ere.. i mean.. 7 is just light n modified vista..
problem is most of the customers are noobs... they simply chant wat other say.
and the biggest problem with vista ,was that M$ didn't handle their release properly, it was delayed so long that people/press got bored of it. And by this time, many of its features were available in 3rd party s/w.
This caused a bad publicity image and as we know, once something is spoken loudly, everybody speaks the same , wheather its right or wrong.
As for 7, it scores purely due to its speed. Once a person starts hailing everybody else simply follows it. And this time, M$ had announced the release date to be in 2010, while in fact it could be much earlier, to avoid the previous goof up.
Recently a method for hacking 7 was posted by certain indians along with source code, do you hear anybody complaining about it ?
At the end of the day its all about publicity, that matters....
i conpletely agree with np.. well said buddy..
that was not the problem with vista .... both n00bs and techies had different reasons to complain
For n00bs they had many compatibility issues ..... they did not have the heavy hardware resource it required ..... and the resulting slow performance was pissing them off
For techies it was digital rights management , User account control , more restricitve licensing terms and lots of software compatibility problems ..... For example Visual Studios 2005 was not compatible with vista ... even though both were released at about the same year ....
drm even goes as far as restricting u from watching live streaming premium content even after u paid it
none of which u seem to be aware off (so most probably never used)
if you use ur windows only for playing games , watching movies , Internet and some simple softwares vista is fine for you .... as long as u know what u are doing .... for the rest it is crap .....
you seem to assume that ppl love windows 7 and hail it as the next best OS??
they only said it was better than vista .... not the best OS ......
there have been some initial positive comments , only after they release the RC will we know the true public reaction ......
and
Theres a good reason they have XP virtualisation feature in windows 7
every vista-ish feature was removed ......
windows ME and xp are similar .... does nt make them the same does it ?
Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 05-15-09 at 02:28 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
lagta hai... khun ki nadiya beh jayegi.. agar more discussion to be continued..
no i dont think so vista all features were removed.. basically they removed all unnecessary things which slopwed down vista.. made its visual things more neat.. (vista was anyways visually good ) made it so tht it in such a way tht uses less resources..
windows 7 is not completely new invention or something.. i feel it emerged from vista..:rockon:
Last edited by Mr.Tooth Fairy; 05-15-09 at 02:34 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
correct
and windows xp emerged from windows ME .... still XP is better than ME
You do know the very same thing happened when XP was released. Many of my friends used to claim that win 98 was the best, and nothing could ever replace it.
Right i never knew abt the DRM n VS 05 stuff but any techie would have the common sense to turn off UAC. If there was any major prob wid vista it was driver issues.that was one thing that M$ botched up until Sp1.
Oh yes i do, many people (on blog comments) have claimed that 7 works better if not equal to Win Xp even on P4 processors. So i would take it as an indication that they claim it as best windows OS.
RC has been released already...
As far Xp and ME comparison that was a totally different case...
*ME - fast damn fast but very prone to crashes,
* 98 -was less prone to crash but little slower too and not to mention it looked so ugly.
*Xp - major advantage at that time was that it reduced the BSOD,crashed by 90%, so that was an apt reason for its popularity at that time. '
And Xp was a combination of ME and 2K which esssentially combined desktop and networking features for the first time in history of M$ windows. So that was that.
These are the reasons y Xp is/was/will be better than ME.
i Am Using Vista On My Dell Laptop.
common sense ??
UAC was implemented in Vista to make it more secure (it was an attempt to copy Linux and Mac's kernel security feature) ......
The problem is not the UAC itself , but the way it was implemented in Vista ... for example UAC notification slows down tasks like copying (this does not happen in Mac or Linux)
it has been drastically improved in windows 7
any techie would have the common sense not to disable UAC as it will make the system more vulnerable to attacks and there are a lot of other problems , like file and registry virtualisation being disabled when UAC is disabled
its like being caught between the devil and the deep blue sea
Dont disable UAC = Annoying pop ups and performance hits
Disable UAC = lesser security
Typo .... i meant the final release
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true UAC's much better in 7. I feel that those who do need its features can instead use a limited user account and then elevate priority when required like s/w installs etc. never tried that though.
Did they really ??
XP was released 9 years ago .... considering that you are doing ur UG now .... u and ur friends must have been somewhere between 11-13 years old ..... An age where u would nt even have known to install an OS let alone review it
which completely disproves your statements regarding ur friends
XP was not as unstable as vista when it was released ..... it had its problems but did not have any major driver issues because it was not released hurriedly like Vista ... all softwares used in 98 were also compatible with xp and there was really no other big issue .
How can u prove this ??
Easy
Install a Windows XP without service packs or any updates
Install a Windows Vista without service packs or any updates
Try to get it working in full condition (with drivers , full HDD and so on)
you ll see what i mean
As far as i know the only thing u can do without UAC is to log off from the limited account and log into Admin account every time u want to do those super user work ..... that would be very very inconvenient
Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 05-15-09 at 10:19 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
:lol: OMG, u have seriously under estimated your youngsters mate !
off-topic :
Nowdays kids are getting smarter, they have computer subjects from std 2
It might surprise you (although a lot less after seeing KK's posts) that whatever info I knew abt computer came from my doctor cousin (if he comes online here, maybe he can speak for himself).
although I didn't know the exact working of OS, I had a fair idea of how it did and internet was a big resource. Also you would be surprised on much information can be collected by reading help files of various system utilities like Norton Utilities and as well as windows help files. After all , windows installation is a piece of cake, atleast when u hav standard h/w that is.
Back to the point, one of the friends in question , was a geek, i mean he grew learning lang etc.
For the record I never said that Xp was unstable !! Personally I never had a problem with XP or Vista RTM.
and what do you mean by "...released hurriedly like vista..." :lol: :lol:
vista was released way past due date, and after those tremendous painfull delays.....
u can use the "run as another user" or "run as administrator" command when using limited account, right ?
^ Viruses aint gonna be doing that
they ll install and run w/o your knowledge
using run as command as Admin user is not going to help security
I agree that today's kids know a lot more about computer .... but you will be mistaken if you think i have no idea about tech geeks in India:lol: OMG, u have seriously under estimated your youngsters mate !
off-topic :
[I]Nowdays kids are getting smarter, they have computer subjects from std 2
It might surprise you (although a lot less after seeing KK's posts) that whatever info I knew abt computer came from my doctor cousin (if he comes online here, maybe he can speak for himself).
I am a poster in many other forums and also work in that field .... and so i know many tech kids/adults in India .... and their level of knowledge
you are mistaken on one point .... the scenario in 2001 was very different .... IT boom had not hit India and so Internet and computer penetration was very low ... ppl used computers but they were not very deep into it ....
This can be easily made out from the fact that Indian tech forums/magazines etc started cropping up only in the last 5 years or so ... the level of knowledge that a 13 yr has now is surely greater than what u or i would have had when we were 13 . so u cannot compare ur generation with the present or future generation ..... that also applies to kiran and Milan ofcourse
u keep under estimating my knowledge .... i am one step ahead of you
While Microsoft had originally hoped to have the consumer versions of the operating system available worldwide in time for Christmas 2006, it was announced in March 2006 that the release date would be pushed back to January 2007, in order to give the company–and the hardware and software companies which Microsoft depends on for providing device drivers–additional time to prepare. Development of Windows Vista came to an end when Microsoft announced that it had been finalized on November 8, 2006.[17] Windows Vista ended up costing Microsoft 6 billion dollars to develop
-wikipedia
Last edited by ShAdOwCoN; 05-16-09 at 02:34 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
whatever you sey my lord !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm sure i'm more eager to meet you and esbebe now !I agree that today's kids know a lot more about computer .... but you will be mistaken if you think i have no idea about tech geeks in India
I am a poster in many other forums and also work in that field .... and so i know many tech kids/adults in India .... and their level of knowledge
you are mistaken on one point .... the scenario in 2001 was very different .... IT boom had not hit India and so Internet and computer penetration was very low ... ppl used computers but they were not very deep into it ....
This can be easily made out from the fact that Indian tech forums/magazines etc started cropping up only in the last 5 years or so ... the level of knowledge that a 13 yr has now is surely greater than what u or i would have had when we were 13 . so u cannot compare ur generation with the present or future generation ..... that also applies to kiran and Milan ofcourse
u keep under estimating my knowledge .... i am one step ahead of you
I too do not see any compelling reason to move to Vista.
yes not a single reason i got to move to vista
XP is better than Vista!
i thinking of switch to linux!
Then switch to it. Start with ubuntu or if you are technical minded & like to break your computer to LFS. We are here to help you out in this peaceful transition ( well I will not be able to help you much in case of lfs as I will start using it when they will release a guide on x86_64 platform also, clfs is available but I don't it like that much)
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thinking of start with sidux
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