Future of Visual Basic and C++ in India

ShAdOwCoN · 06-23-09, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by josh

well what a prolonged and marathon thread -but nobody has able to say specifically abut Web designing -or it will be only .............. opted by yet once again Bsc or Bcom graduates ? I mean how tuff is this code as follows:-
<html>
<head>
<title> IT is only or should I say just only For science and commerce streams.</title>
OMG

how tuff is this code?

Think ..... are web designers paid 30k to code

<html>
<head>
<title>Your Knowledge about IT field is pathetic ...and you forgot to close your tags </title>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html> ?

Heres a job description from Monster.com ...... seeing your resume do you think they ll even call a guy having background in literature ?

Web Designer

Responsibilities include, but are not limited to:

Understand product functionality and business requirements.

The candidate must be highly proficient at client-side technologies such as JavaScript, CSS, and hand coded HTML using Web Standards. In the case of all of these technologies, deep knowledge of browser-compatibilities is essential.

Additionally, the candidate should be comfortable with, and has significant hands-on experience with JSP and has a reasonable degree of knowledge of AJAX.

Apply basic user interface design skills when implementing features.

Innovation: Contributes to lessons-learned exercises for completed projects.

Suggest new technologies and approaches, often demonstrating and championing their use.

Qualifications:
Bachelors Degree or Equivalent

Must be comfortable with user-interface, information architecture principles, and designing web sites with complex information or functionality.

5+ years experience building JavaScript/CSS/JSP-based front ends for viewing on multiple browsers and operating systems.

3+ years experience with the software development lifecycle.

3+ years experience with the minimum 3 of the following technologies/skills: Jakarta/Apache Tomcat; Struts MVC framework (Action-class development and JSP authoring); custom JSP tag use; AJAX; ANT; XML/XSL transformations.

2+ years experience with XML/XSL or equivalent.

Excellent communication skills with both non- technical designers and software engineers.

Ability to thrive in a dynamic, fast-paced environment.

Proven prioritization and time management skills.

Must have experience estimating the duration of design and development tasks.

Experience with source control systems (Rational ClearCase/CVS) and bug management (Rational ClearQuest) or other similar enterprise tools is a plus.

Experience in localization is a plus.

Experience in Agile process is a plus.

Salary/Benefits: Salary commensurate with experience

Originally Posted by newprouser

:lol: :lol:

whose ?

The Examiner ........ who else

?

**mickey** · 06-23-09, 12:47 PM

^^you are absolutely correcto...

newprouser · 06-23-09, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

The Examiner ........ who else

?

Ouch !

:lol:

Did you ppl have external examiners, unlike nowadays, where AU has internal examiners for final pratical exams ?

**mickey** · 06-23-09, 12:55 PM

AU haaah

ShAdOwCoN · 06-23-09, 01:09 PM

AU always had internal examiners ..... External examiners of Other colleges (affiliated) are as u may already know, AU officials

**josh** · 06-23-09, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Think ..... are web designers paid 30k to code

<html>
<head>
<title>Your Knowledge about IT field is pathetic ...and you forgot to close your tags </title>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html> ?

Heres a job description from Monster.com ...... seeing your resume do you think they ll even call a guy having background in literature ?

The Examiner ........ who else

?

oops ,omg thanx but no thanx for sharing Ur code debugging- firstly I've not finished my html doc. and as expected once yet again U've showed how great code debugger u r?It's just an instance to show basic coding of html and not trying to make any website but rest assured next time if any thread related to T20 debacle of Indian team and if I've the liberty of analyzing any particular match of Indian team -I'm gonna start from ball 1st to ball 120th yeah I know that it's painful and monotonously boring for other members but I'm sure that I'll make U more happy this time round:8:

ShAdOwCoN · 06-23-09, 07:57 PM

That the difference .....

Engineers tend to be perfectionists ..... U Either do or you dont .....

you learnt a,b,c,d but not x,y,z

oh well i am ranting

**itsmemad** · 06-23-09, 08:32 PM

@ Josh

Nobody wanna demoralize or humiliate you... Everyone just wanted to guide you... cuz u asked for it...

Anyway, if you still wanna go for IT... I would suggest you to go for web designing... Learn HTML, CSS, Javascript to start with... Learn some graphical tools... like adobe photoshop, corel draw etc... Learn how to use editors like dreamweaver...

Employment may not come easily... You can always start as a freelancer... Build your portfolio on the web... There are few genuine sites where you can get small projects as a freelancer... Or you may talk your businessmen contacts/friends into designing a website for their business... Gain some hands on experience...

When you achieve these things, you'll automatically know what more you can learn to make your mark in IT industry...

**josh** · 06-24-09, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by itsmemad

@ Josh

Nobody wanna demoralize or humiliate you... Everyone just wanted to guide you... cuz u asked for it...

Anyway, if you still wanna go for IT... I would suggest you to go for web designing... Learn HTML, CSS, Javascript to start with... Learn some graphical tools... like adobe photoshop, corel draw etc... Learn how to use editors like dreamweaver...

Employment may not come easily... You can always start as a freelancer... Build your portfolio on the web... There are few genuine sites where you can get small projects as a freelancer... Or you may talk your businessmen contacts/friends into designing a website for their business... Gain some hands on experience...

When you achieve these things, you'll automatically know what more you can learn to make your mark in IT industry...

well that is some kind of fresh air - thanx

**nilact** · 06-24-09, 11:15 AM

Agree with all the chaps here.

First of all decide what do you want to be?

System Analyst
Designer
Programmer
Database Administrator
Network Admin

If you have creative mind then go for designing. you can use different tools like Adobe Dreamweaver, Flash, Silverlight etc.

If you have good logical skills then go for programming. It would be difficult for you to find a job as you don't have any BE or BCA degree. Though you can do certification like Sun Certification, Microsoft Certification etc. But as you are preparing for civil services you might not have enough time for it.

You can excel in IT, but have to work hard. Everything works for you, just you must have passion for it. Isi baat pe kuch arz hai,

दरिया में मौजें साहिल से टकराकर किनारे बदल भी सकती हैं,
किश्ती हदे - तूफां से आगे निकल भी सकती है,
मायूस न हो इरादे न बदल, तदबीर तेरी तकदीर बदल भी सकती है!

तदबीर (Effort)

saurav_k · 06-24-09, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by nilact

दरिया में मौजें साहिल से टकराकर किनारे बदल भी सकती हैं,
किश्ती हदे - तूफां से आगे निकल भी सकती है,
मायूस न हो इरादे न बदल, तदबीर तेरी तकदीर बदल भी सकती है!

Reps ++ :14:

**josh** · 06-24-09, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by nilact

Agree with all the chaps here.

First of all decide what do you want to be?

System Analyst
Designer
Programmer
Database Administrator
Network Admin

If you have creative mind then go for designing. you can use different tools like Adobe Dreamweaver, Flash, Silverlight etc.

If you have good logical skills then go for programming. It would be difficult for you to find a job as you don't have any BE or BCA degree. Though you can do certification like Sun Certification, Microsoft Certification etc. But as you are preparing for civil services you might not have enough time for it.

You can excel in IT, but have to work hard. Everything works for you, just you must have passion for it. Isi baat pe kuch arz hai,

दरिया में मौजें साहिल से टकराकर किनारे बदल भी सकती हैं,
किश्ती हदे - तूफां से आगे निकल भी सकती है,
मायूस न हो इरादे न बदल, तदबीर तेरी तकदीर बदल भी सकती है!

तदबीर (Effort)

Well -Well said Rep++++:14:

**just4kix** · 06-24-09, 05:13 PM

Unfortunately in India, employers look for degrees and certificates. Hard work and ability does count but when it come to promotions and hikes, the papers that you possess will matter.

Not so in America.

I have seen high-school pass people doing good work and getting paid well. Of course later on in life, many undergo night schools or distance learning to spruce themselves. Say what you wish about America, but America respects talent and performance alone, and those who are passionate about succeeding, will succeed.

ShAdOwCoN · 06-24-09, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by just4kix

Unfortunately in India, employers look for degrees and certificates. Hard work and ability does count but when it come to promotions and hikes, the papers that you possess will matter.

This is what i have been trying to say

ok this will be my last post here

**uncleji** · 07-09-09, 12:32 PM

well, anybody here working in oracle /forms/d2k. what you think about forms future as 10g forms are almost flop and oracle has no plan to launch forms 11g
I am planning to shift vb.net

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