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Logik · 07-06-09, 05:32 PM

Well i got this problem while setting up XP. First of all on my Dell Lappy inspiron 1420, i installed xp pro sp3 by booting from the USB flash drive (not the usual CD boot method). I copied the XP setup files into pen drive by special process.The detailed guide for it is here:-

How To Install Windows XP From A USB Flash Drive Articles - OCIA.net

Anyways, back to my problem. this is not first time i did XP setup. I did it many times. I've 160 Gb HDD, with three partitions.

C- 50Gb
D-30Gb
E-72Gb

now what i did, i deleted the c & d drive using the XP menu setup menu. I was expecting the two partitions will merge & form a 80Gb unpartitioned space. my plan was to make 2 partitions of 40Gb afterward. But that thing never happened. After i deleted the C (50Gb) it showed unpartitioned space as 50Gb. After deletion of D it again showed a unpartitioned space of 30Gb separatel. WTF. two unpartioned space separately.

I guess this happened coz of the flash drive method. I then continued with windows setup. installed windows full. then by usingAcronis disk director suit, i adjusted both the partitions to 40Gb each.

Now whenever i try to boot into XP setup by using the normal CD method, i try to delet the two 40 gb c & d partions, it still shows two unpartioned space of 40Gb separately. I really don't know whats wrong. Why two spaces are not merging??

Is there someway to correct this error using the bootable XP CD or i need to get any partition magic s/w?

Logik

PS: I don't wanna to merge/creat the partitions by using the softwares while running in windows.

linusr · 07-06-09, 10:50 PM

Are you using extended partitions?

Harddisks can have only four primary partitions. So, its normal to create an extended partiion which can have any number of logical partition.

In your case, if 'C' is primary & 'D' is within extended partition they'll appear seperately as unpartitioned.

If you have backup of data, try an partition manager. Don't take any risk with peronsl data like photos on harddisk.
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm

07-06-09, 10:58 PM

1) If those parttions are primary and extended then they wont merge.
2) If you are deleting those from windows setup they will not merge its like just emptying the room but not demolishing the house to build again.
3) If you want to merge them use the Disk managers provided by the HDD company or use any software like partition magic.

Logik · 07-06-09, 11:40 PM

hey Kiran, i remember few months back i formatted my frnds PC using the XP setup CD. he was having 4 partitions. C,D,E,F. I deleted all in series in the end to get one final unpartitioned 160Gb in end. C was his primary partition. & remaining were extended

@ linusr
i got all my data backed. i am gonna use Acronis disk suit

07-06-09, 11:42 PM

can you please post the screenshot of "disk management"

control panel > adminstrative tools > compter management > disk management

Logik · 07-07-09, 12:07 AM

here we go NP

07-07-09, 12:14 AM

yep D: and E: are in extended partition. see the green rectangle box around them ?

first copy all data from D & E and then, delete them. next you can remove the logical/extended partition.

after doing so you will get the unpartitioned space.

again create a new partition. In the wizard that appears, choose primary partition.

do this for the next partition.

you can created 4 primary partitions OR 3 primary partitions and a logical/extended partition. logical paritions can have more partitions under them.

Logik · 07-07-09, 01:12 PM

alright......so i need to choose the partition sa primary while making them....huh?
So what u ppl say, is having more than 1 primary partition is good or my current setup is ok??

~Logik~

PS : i m not planning for dual boot OS. I am gonna stick to XP for next 6-8 months.

07-07-09, 01:14 PM

current setup is OK. only thing is if you want to merge the space, you have to make sure they are either in primary partition or both are in extended partition.

whitestar_999 · 07-07-09, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newprouser

current setup is OK. only thing is if you want to merge the space, you have to make sure they are either in primary partition or both are in extended partition.

not necessary.you can easily increase/reduce C drive(primary) size with D drive(extended)only thing is this process will be done at reboot of the PC before OS loads unlike other operations which can be done by softwares like acronis during windows running.

07-07-09, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitestar_999

not necessary.you can easily increase/reduce C drive(primary) size with D drive(extended)only thing is this process will be done at reboot of the PC before OS loads unlike other operations which can be done by softwares like acronis during windows running.

but i think what he wanted was, is to be able to delete certain partitions duyring Xp setup , and they should be able to merge together.

whitestar_999 · 07-07-09, 10:31 PM

well if he wanted to change size of C only then he will need this process i mentioned.

Logik · 07-08-09, 02:46 PM

@whitestar_999
i already did that & mentioned it in my first post.

My only concenr was the installation new new method. rather than traditional CD rom i've used the flash drive for installing XP. i though the partitions are not merging coz of this new method.....but i got answer now....thanks

07-08-09, 03:03 PM

u are lucky to get that working. when i tried it didn't work properly. and it was mentioned in a different tutorial that it will work properly only if one partition is present.

Logik · 07-08-09, 03:53 PM

@NPU
guess u talking abt the Flash Drive method. Anyways..can u put some details for u problem. Let me tell u one thing......i've been looking for this installing XP from flash drive method since 1.5 yrs.....this is the most easy & only working tut i found. If u can put details i might help

07-08-09, 04:00 PM

then i'll try this again n post it. I forgot wat happened last time. all i remember is tat it took abt 1 hr atleast....

Logik · 07-08-09, 04:48 PM

anyways......NPU.....m gonna post same tut here this weekend. Along with it m gonna post some more additional info & how i did it.

07-08-09, 04:57 PM

oh that good !

nandini · 07-12-09, 11:32 AM

Last night I tried to create one more drive in my system running on vista. First I couldn't even shrink the volume. So I had to disable paging and screenshot and thus I was able to create a chunk of "Unallocated Space". Now when I try to run "New simple volume wizard", it displays an error. I have attached the screenshot. Please tell me what's wrong with my approach.

07-12-09, 11:42 AM

Thats not an issue, its giving the error because all the drives you have are primary partitions. You need to create extended partetion so that more drives can be added.
Create extended drive partition then you will be able to create it.

07-06-09, 05:32 PM	#1
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	A Problem with Harddisk Partition. Well i got this problem while setting up XP. First of all on my Dell Lappy inspiron 1420, i installed xp pro sp3 by booting from the USB flash drive (not the usual CD boot method). I copied the XP setup files into pen drive by special process.The detailed guide for it is here:- How To Install Windows XP From A USB Flash Drive Articles - OCIA.net Anyways, back to my problem. this is not first time i did XP setup. I did it many times. I've 160 Gb HDD, with three partitions. C- 50Gb D-30Gb E-72Gb now what i did, i deleted the c & d drive using the XP menu setup menu. I was expecting the two partitions will merge & form a 80Gb unpartitioned space. my plan was to make 2 partitions of 40Gb afterward. But that thing never happened. After i deleted the C (50Gb) it showed unpartitioned space as 50Gb. After deletion of D it again showed a unpartitioned space of 30Gb separatel. WTF. two unpartioned space separately. I guess this happened coz of the flash drive method. I then continued with windows setup. installed windows full. then by usingAcronis disk director suit, i adjusted both the partitions to 40Gb each. Now whenever i try to boot into XP setup by using the normal CD method, i try to delet the two 40 gb c & d partions, it still shows two unpartioned space of 40Gb separately. I really don't know whats wrong. Why two spaces are not merging?? Is there someway to correct this error using the bootable XP CD or i need to get any partition magic s/w? Logik PS: I don't wanna to merge/creat the partitions by using the softwares while running in windows.

07-06-09, 10:50 PM	#2
linusr Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 30 Rep Power: 1	Are you using extended partitions? Harddisks can have only four primary partitions. So, its normal to create an extended partiion which can have any number of logical partition. In your case, if 'C' is primary & 'D' is within extended partition they'll appear seperately as unpartitioned. If you have backup of data, try an partition manager. Don't take any risk with peronsl data like photos on harddisk. http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm Last edited by linusr; 07-06-09 at 10:52 PM. Reason: Added link to EASEUS Partition Master 4.0.1 Home Edition

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07-06-09, 10:58 PM	#3
kirankumargb Guest Posts: n/a	1) If those parttions are primary and extended then they wont merge. 2) If you are deleting those from windows setup they will not merge its like just emptying the room but not demolishing the house to build again. 3) If you want to merge them use the Disk managers provided by the HDD company or use any software like partition magic.

07-06-09, 11:40 PM	#4
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	hey Kiran, i remember few months back i formatted my frnds PC using the XP setup CD. he was having 4 partitions. C,D,E,F. I deleted all in series in the end to get one final unpartitioned 160Gb in end. C was his primary partition. & remaining were extended @ linusr i got all my data backed. i am gonna use Acronis disk suit

07-06-09, 11:42 PM	#5
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	can you please post the screenshot of "disk management" control panel > adminstrative tools > compter management > disk management

07-07-09, 12:14 AM	#7
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	yep D: and E: are in extended partition. see the green rectangle box around them ? first copy all data from D & E and then, delete them. next you can remove the logical/extended partition. after doing so you will get the unpartitioned space. again create a new partition. In the wizard that appears, choose primary partition. do this for the next partition. you can created 4 primary partitions OR 3 primary partitions and a logical/extended partition. logical paritions can have more partitions under them.

07-07-09, 01:12 PM	#8
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	alright......so i need to choose the partition sa primary while making them....huh? So what u ppl say, is having more than 1 primary partition is good or my current setup is ok?? ~Logik~ PS : i m not planning for dual boot OS. I am gonna stick to XP for next 6-8 months.

07-07-09, 01:14 PM	#9
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	current setup is OK. only thing is if you want to merge the space, you have to make sure they are either in primary partition or both are in extended partition.

07-07-09, 10:31 PM	#12
whitestar_999 Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UP(west) Posts: 1,971 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 3	well if he wanted to change size of C only then he will need this process i mentioned.

07-08-09, 02:46 PM	#13
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	@whitestar_999 i already did that & mentioned it in my first post. My only concenr was the installation new new method. rather than traditional CD rom i've used the flash drive for installing XP. i though the partitions are not merging coz of this new method.....but i got answer now....thanks

07-08-09, 03:03 PM	#14
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	u are lucky to get that working. when i tried it didn't work properly. and it was mentioned in a different tutorial that it will work properly only if one partition is present.

07-08-09, 03:53 PM	#15
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	@NPU guess u talking abt the Flash Drive method. Anyways..can u put some details for u problem. Let me tell u one thing......i've been looking for this installing XP from flash drive method since 1.5 yrs.....this is the most easy & only working tut i found. If u can put details i might help

07-08-09, 04:00 PM	#16
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	then i'll try this again n post it. I forgot wat happened last time. all i remember is tat it took abt 1 hr atleast....

07-08-09, 04:48 PM	#17
Logik Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: On Internet Posts: 680 Rep Power: 5	anyways......NPU.....m gonna post same tut here this weekend. Along with it m gonna post some more additional info & how i did it.

07-08-09, 04:57 PM	#18
newprouser Guest Posts: n/a	oh that good !

07-12-09, 11:42 AM	#20
kirankumargb Guest Posts: n/a	Thats not an issue, its giving the error because all the drives you have are primary partitions. You need to create extended partetion so that more drives can be added. Create extended drive partition then you will be able to create it.

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